We have yet as to see any evidence of it being mechanical failure due to aircraft age yet they go ahead and restrict vintage aircraft from performing 'high-energy aerobatics', nothing is changed for modern era aircraft which are also susceptible to mechanical failure even if it is a to a lesser degree, not to mention if it turns out to be pilot error. Seems a bit of a knee jerk reaction to me, surely they should be looking at restricting all 'high-energy aerobatics' regardless of aircraft age unless they are performed over unoccupied land/water?
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We have yet as to see any evidence of it being mechanical failure due to aircraft age yet they go ahead and restrict vintage aircraft from performing 'high-energy aerobatics', nothing is changed for modern era aircraft which are also susceptible to mechanical failure even if it is a to a lesser degree, not to mention if it turns out to be pilot error. Seems a bit of a knee jerk reaction to me, surely they should be looking at restricting all 'high-energy aerobatics' regardless of aircraft age unless they are performed over unoccupied land/water?
They had little choice sadly. In this PC knee jerk keep the children safe world in which we live, any corporation or government body not seen to act in some way would be hung drawn and quartered if something else went wrong.
You have seen none as Joe Public, but I suggest others closer to the events might have a first pass perspective on what went on and may be taking precautions and as I said above.
seems like a massive over reaction
sunderland airshow this year was nearly all old planes apart from a typhoon.
would have been boring as hell if it were just fly pasts as accidents at airshows are rare.
I think one guy owned 3 of the ww2 planes that flew at the Sunderland airshow, lucky ******* (I think p40 kittyhawk ,p51 and spit fire)
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Airshows have been cut back massively since the Rammstein incident. I remember planes flying over crowds, doing amazingly low level passes well below 250 feet. The one I remember most was the Harrier display at the British GP I think in 1980 at Brands. It hovered over the south bank and the entire place went mad. Deck chairs, umbrellas etc went everywhere. It was ACE! 
The huge difference which people seem to be forgetting is recent practice on type. We have been told over and over these old aircraft do very few hours per year. Very few hours is very little practice. That's why they should be doing fly by's. Not due to structural or mechanical failure but because they have no right doing a loop above us all with so few flying hours on type per year.
These aircraft are maintained and monitored nothing like a modern aircraft but that's not my main issue. The one above is.
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With up to 20 people possibly dead I think they had to be shown they are taking precautions.
Maybe when the full investigation is complete restrictions might be able to be relaxed and other precautions taken.
So sad for the victims and families as well as these very popular events
Yup. Like the crash at the Ring. All of sudden we have speed limits for RACE meetings! They have now been lifted...
Here is another from the 1974 British GP. It really was different back then....
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Not really. We pay £150k per annum jsut to insure 24 hgvs.
Its all about risk and reward.
Liklelihood insurance company has to pay out - maybe once every 60 years
Amount they have to pay out when there is an accident. Millions and millions.
In fact £25k sounds really cheap. 60 years premium would only be £1.5m which wont even make a start with this claim.
It is. But that is the PC word in which we live these days, the press forms the opinions of a massive section of our society on these sort of things and the British love a good moan about these things. Tragic event, hate to see it happen again but the fact is hasn't happened for 10's of years shows how rare it is when you consider how many of these shows have happened in the the time.....and how MAD they were until the 90's....
It is. But that is the PC word in which we live these days, the press forms the opinions of a massive section of our society on these sort of things and the British love a good moan about these things. Tragic event, hate to see it happen again but the fact is hasn't happened for 10's of years shows how rare it is when you consider how many of these shows have happened in the the time.....and how MAD they were until the 90's....
Everyone is just happier sitting at home in front of the TV, and if anything makes a noise or disturbs that they will go to the council and complain. British people are much more risk adverse than they used to be, and the stiff upper lip has all but died out.
And for me that is really sad. It wasn't all roses in the garden when I was a kid, far from it, but the attitudes were very different when it came to owning your own problems and not making a fuss over nothing. I would never suggest this incident is a fuss over nothing, of course not for it is tragic and must not happen again. But go onto any media outlet and you see the problem you reference. People wanting to ban ANYTHING that has slight risk associated with it.
It is only the vintage jets which mean atleast the propellor aircraft can still fly their normal routines. I'm not sure this ruling would actually make a lot of difference to most airshows.
utter knee jerk stupidity.What's the point in life without risk. Especially miniscule risk.
What's the point in life without risk. Especially miniscule risk.
Disagree. If it means saving lives i am all for it.
Anyway, this could be temporary measure until investigations complete
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