Doesn't make him a god though, he's still human and therefore prone to mistakes.
Seven dead after Hawker Hunter hits cars
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Doesn't make him a god though, he's still human and therefore prone to mistakes.
any climb to height needs energy at entry = speed.
Not sure I follow. Planes can go near vertical after take off. Assuming he was going quicker than take off speed...
I just meant he may have climbed to whatever height was deemed safe before inverting fully for the loop. The height he started it from not really mattering?
Looking at the way it came down not sure a few hundred feet would have made a difference anyway (ok, might have missed the road but that would have been pure chance as there looked to be no control). Up at a few thousand feet and you might recover it.
Obviously no expert, sure it will all come out in the investigation.
those aircraft usually have a lot more power than the 7400lb that the hunter has (the lightning had 2 engines each @ 16,000lb thrust for example)
as for height the entire display is preplanned so he know what ehight to climb to start the quarter clover , it would seem from a number of commentators on the ground , they believed the roll and bank bled height off the climb. also the video from the take off at Essex didn't show a sprightly take off , but slightly laboured , so maybe he was down on power?
he was also too low to eject - the mk4 seat isn't rocket assist.
there's a video of a eurofigter typhoon doing a loop and then missing a runway by about 2-3feet.
even the most experienced pilots can get it wrong.
oops hit new post instead of edit, sorry
there's a video of a eurofigter typhoon doing a loop and then missing a runway by about 2-3feet.
even the most experienced pilots can get it wrong.
skio to 1:15
there's another video that seems to be a different plane that's closer but someone watching lets out a bad word
this guy has a novel way to mow the grass after a loop
there's a video of a eurofigter typhoon doing a loop and then missing a runway by about 2-3feet.
even the most experienced pilots can get it wrong.
there's another video that seems to be a different plane that's closer but someone watching lets out a bad word
this guy has a novel way to mow the grass after a loop
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Pretty sure that once he was at the bottom of the loop, perhaps another 50 foot would have meant he didnt hit the ground?
And if its that tight, although it makes for more spectacle to the public, why cant loops be done at another 100 feet higher or even 500 feet or a 1000 feet?
I'd imagine if the wind changes etc then there's not enough margin for error.
it's not an exact science there are variables involved that you can't compute
thy don't know the plane is going to lose exactly XXX altitude as it falls before it starts to power back out
BTW typhoons are awesome everyone should be forced to attend at least one airshow.
the noise is incredible like they are spitting out thunder
only airshow near me is kinda poop though
RIAT must be amazing
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yea and they still get it wrong some of the time like in one of the videos I linked and when it does happen that pilots told to land
aye - as I put look at the phantom F4 crash at RAF Abingdon in 1988 for such an example
Sadly, the Hunter is well known for needing assistance from the curvature of the earth to take off. It's not spritely like the the old Lightning.
Plus the pilot won't have done the show with an under-performing engine.
I saw the display the hunter did a few weeks earlier at the trackday I did and the display looked very well performed then. It fact it was only the gilder display that made me nervous.
I saw the display the hunter did a few weeks earlier at the trackday I did and the display looked very well performed then. It fact it was only the gilder display that made me nervous.
Again the point being missed on how many hours on that type per year? That's what I want to know. I have no issue with someone like the Red Arrows doing loops, that's their main type and they practice. How many hours actual practice does this guy get in a Hunter to then be able to do stunts above our heads?
You can have 11,000 hours flying an A320 but no one would be happy with you then flying them in a 737 if they only got 5 hours practice per year. I don't care how many hours he has flying, I want to know how many hours he had on that type per year.
Too early to start blaming anyone
Well the pilot in question wasnt even scheduled to fly the hunter that day. No idea why he ended up flying it.
And where exactly did I blame anyone
It's the utter ridiculous nature of the rules. When we had a dual fleet of 320's and 737's the Pilots couldn't fly a bus one day and a boeing the next, regardless of how many hours they had and that's just autopilot flying while reading the latest copy of nuts/fhm magazine
I have to maintain recency to be able to certify. Yet you can fly a handful of hours per year in an old aircraft and do stunts even though you don't get enough hours practice. I have no issue with them flying circuits, but aerobatics when they get so few hours practice should not be happening.
It is reported elsewhere that he WAS scheduled to fly as the guy was always going to be on holiday. And anyway, it was only him and the other pilot who flew the hunter, they split the time between them on a regular basis.
danny... I think you need to start reading up a little on the backstory before jumping to conclusions and raging.
danny... I think you need to start reading up a little on the backstory before jumping to conclusions and raging.
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