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Carrots.. vaginas.. this thread is going somewhere very seedy lol.
Carrots.. vaginas.. this thread is going somewhere very seedy lol.
Can't imagine many people go out of their way not to be naked around their own young children, do they? I know we don't in our house. The kids only put clothes on because we tell them to, pretty sure they'd happily run around with nothing on most of the time.
I'd been under the impression that this chap was jailed in part due to some behaviour beyond simply being naked in public, but maybe that's wrong (?). It's pretty ridiculous if it's all for nudity.

No. That's not the reason why a kid would find it shocking. It's shocking because it's the first time they've ever seen a grown matured sex organ. If you're living in an ancient tribal society you're going to be rolling around naked with your children FROM BIRTH, therefore the shock will never happen.
Why do you believe the only reason a kid can find something shocking is that they've been conditioned into finding it shocking?
If a child sees a murder scene will they not be shocked? I'm sure their parents don't condition their children into finding murder scene's shocking do they???
For a child to be truly not shocked at the sight of a grown human's sex organs, they would have to be seeing these things from birth, like in tribal society.
It's impossible to do this in this society unless your parents have been showing you their sex organs since you were a baby. You cannot do it if the child's been bought up even for 3 years in a clothed society because that automatically means there will be a FIRST TIME they will see a grown man's penis.
This is why it's a terrible idea for a little girl to see a grown man's penis on her walk to the park! You either play with your children naked from birth like they did when everyone was naked in tribal days, or they learn themselves when they're old enough to understand.
You simply cant be exposing random kids to matured sex organs.
As a society I think we need to sort out upbringings like yours, rather than jailing someone walking around without artificial skin, which is essentially what clothes are.
It's impossible to do this in this society unless your parents have been showing you their sex organs since you were a baby.
Did you parents also censor the "Sex Organs" of other species, like the dog, bull or lion with it's testicles dangling down?
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the first time they ever see them. Which is why I think it's sad to ruin a little girls day who's probably never seen a penis before and was just on her way to the park.So basically you agree with me then, that if we (or more precisely some families) were more liberal with nudity (like much of the rest of Europe and many UK families) children would not be shocked if they saw someone walking around naked and there would be no issues.
Fixed, but yes that's the reality of the situation.
But I don't agree that people should be naked. We've evolved to wear clothes. We cant devolve now.
Lol, say that to all the ladies who wear material smaller than a handkerchief on a beach. That's a silly argument.

Lol, say that to all the ladies who wear material smaller than a handkerchief on a beach. That's a silly argument.
Fixed, but yes that's the reality of the situation.
But I don't agree that people should be naked. We've evolved to wear clothes. We cant devolve now.
And that's a narrow minded reply.
We've have evolved to wear clothes. If we didn't, planes that can take us from sub zero to sub Saharan would be utterly pointless because you would die soon after stepping off. Humanity is highly evolved and clothing is what has allowed us to become this established, it's basically a massive **** you in the face of natural selection. It's basically adaptation on-the-fly.
It's nothing to do with ladies sun bathing on a beach wearing nothing. It's about those same ladies being able to go to the Arctic and not be killed by temperature.


So what we need now is more activists like the naked rambler to push the boundaries and make it a non issue. Much like the activists over the last few hundred years have made it fine for women to wear bikinis and men to wander round topless.
Well if seeing naked people is your thing then yes we "need" that.
Personally I don't need to, nor want to see naked people everywhere.
If you don't want to see that, that's your opinion but I see no reason why this opinion should be elevated to criminality.

Well if seeing naked people is your thing then yes we "need" that.
Personally I don't need to, nor want to see naked people everywhere.
I didn't make the laws. There's some things that I want to do which no one will will ever be affected by, no one will ever see, smell, touch, or smoke yet they would automatically make me a criminal.
The actual reasons for many things being considered criminal are very deeply secret. I could tell you why but it's so unbelievable it's just going to make me look like a troll to everybody and also because I don't have time for a massive debate about secret things that even I'm not sure about.
What if they were a naked Syrian refugee?
The actual reasons for many things being considered criminal are very deeply secret. I could tell you why but it's so unbelievable it's just going to make me look like a troll to everybody and also because I don't have time for a massive debate about secret things that even I'm not sure about.