Their immediate plan is to put taxes up, however.
The EU Migrant Crisis
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Their immediate plan is to put taxes up, however.
They do so, because no one states how the schools and NHS etc etc will cope with the massive increase in numbers in some areas.
As I said in my post above one guy is now looking forward to getting his wife and 6 kids over to NI. That's 6 extra kids that need to be put into school who may not understand a word of English. Now times by that amount of men looking forward to doing the same.
Germany is in a demographic time bomb right now.
Their population is going to decline by at least 10m over the next 50yrs, it's already 'baked in' to their birth rate, so taking in people like this will help a little in the short term but seeing as how not all these people will settle permanently, it's too soon to say what the long term effects will be.
Their population is going to decline by at least 10m over the next 50yrs, it's already 'baked in' to their birth rate, so taking in people like this will help a little in the short term but seeing as how not all these people will settle permanently, it's too soon to say what the long term effects will be.
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See this is the point that I agree with, while I support migrants/immigration/refugees I do agree that it need to be manageable, practical and also have minimal affect on 'our' (as in natives) way of life.
I think this is what many people supporting it think but we just get shouted down or ignored as we don't have an immediate fix for the solution, if I did I certainly would be earning more.
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Wow - a Syrian that only speaks Syrian. I bet there are no English that only speak English. Bloody savages.
They'll have an interpreter in class and they'll take intensive Enlish lessons. My wifes school had an Eritrean start last September - by November they didn't need an interpreter anymore and after that they used thier iPad to translate phrases they got stuck on - worked pretty well. Results showed it didn't affect the rest of the class at all.
It's not an insurmountable problem.
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That interpreter cost's money.
Yes one child, now what if there was an extra 10 in each class from P1 to P7 and from 1st year to 5th year. You can't really be sitting there thinking "Sure one child worked OK in my wife's school that means it will be fine elsewhere".
Say 1 thousand men get here and then later their wife and lets say 3 kids. That's 3 thousand extra kids rammed into classrooms around the country.
There's one thing NI can't afford, is thousands of refugee's. The ********'s in charge can't even agree a welfare reform for it's own people.
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Agreed.
They'll need more interpreters until their English improves.
I'd star out the sweary.
Funded how?
Of course it "cost's" money
The question was how does having a non-English speaker in class affect the other children, and an example was given of how the impact is minimal.
If you're looking for a way of accepting refugees into a country without it costing anything in the short term then nothing is going to pass your test.
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The same way everything else is funded.
Because it is far easier to look at things as black and white with your viewpoint being correct. Takes far too much critical thinking to accept it is a hugely complex problem with no simple fix. At least that's the impression I get from this thread.
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https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/09/06/no-increase-syrian-refugee-numbers/
YouGov: Should Britain admit higher numbers of Syrian refugees than it has recently? Yes 36%, No 51%
The worm is turning, British people are getting sick of our government constantly allowing us to be mugged off.
YouGov: Should Britain admit higher numbers of Syrian refugees than it has recently? Yes 36%, No 51%
The worm is turning, British people are getting sick of our government constantly allowing us to be mugged off.
Amiga lives in some alternate universe "like in Star Trek" where everyone works for free, and the whole world has a common purpose.
He won't answer questions about how any of this will be financed, because he doesn't know, and such questions "are not worth responding to."
Just need to read his previous replies to see he is an idealist/fantasist with no actual concern for the practicalities.
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But so are the people opposed to the idea, and herein lies the problem.
Of course it "cost's" money
The question was how does having a non-English speaker in class affect the other children, and an example was given of how the impact is minimal.
If you're looking for a way of accepting refugees into a country without it costing anything in the short term then nothing is going to pass your test.
An example was given which included one child. I am taking about larger numbers in each class. There is no way it would work without affecting the other kids.
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That is interesting.
Wonder if we're looking at a vote of no confidence on the horizon for Cameron? Could this issue be the undoing of his slim majority government?
New election in 6 months? I'm gonna see if a bookie is offering odds.
Yet again, you demonstrate a complete lack of awareness about the cuts being undertaken "everywhere else."
Cuts in public services, cuts in disability allowances, cuts in policing...
And "everything else" is funded by tax money.
It's soooo easy to spend other people's money, isn't it... Why don't the people so vocally supportive of taking economic migrants use their *own* money, not the dwindling tax revenue, to fund all this?
But we are cutting services in this country.
We have just ended funding for about 12 different cancer drugs.
I agree we need to do something but we should be tackling the problem at source, not adopting a populist sticking plaster approach.
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