The EU Migrant Crisis

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FoxEye said:
They've probably been told we all live in mansions, and that we'd put them up in 5* hotels :p

Their clothes, including jewellery, iPods, etc, do not make them look like desperate refugees to my eyes. Leather jackets, fashionable trainers... stuff that many Brits probably don't have.

There is a clear need here to separate these people from legitimate refugees.
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Yeah - because only poor people can be refugees.

Bombs don't care is you're rich or poor.

Skunkworks said:
Have you ever opened your home to help a British homeless person?
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Yes.
 
FoxEye said:
These kind of actions should lead to asylum being revoked.

The deal should be: come into our country, be safe, and abide by our rules.

Start committing crimes, and we no longer care about your safety. You had your chance, now leave, go back to your war-zones.

The idea that once they're here they are protected and can't be removed is allowing this kind of thing.

Can you imagine this going on if the threat of being removed from the country was hanging over them?
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This is my problem people are people, I hate them all personally including you and everyone else on this planet! :D

But the problem is they don't integrate at all. Ok I am not expecting them to eat bacon and drink alcohol, just you know live how we live-ish.

Not far from me a road Lodge lane is like the middle east. We don't mix at all and never ever will, we are totally different people in culture and up bringing.

Merkel needs her ****ing head testing that's for sure. :mad:
 
matdom said:
They will never do it, they are just jumping on the bandwagon feel good factor.
I hope the government turns round and accepts see what excuses those people come up with not to house them.
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Oh I know politicians wont but it is the kind of stunt to push the public to start it and get momentum.
 
amigafan2003 said:
Yeah - because only poor people can be refugees.

Bombs don't care is you're rich or poor.
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You're being silly.

If they were genuinely fleeing destruction and death they would be grateful to be living in a tent where bombs /weren't/ falling all around them.

Did you even watch the video?

They were saying that living in shared tents is not good enough, and that they needed "saving" from these "bad conditions".

Clearly they've not lived in an area where bombs /really were/ falling, or they wouldn't be calling a safe tent in a safe country "bad conditions".

Try again.
 
itchy said:

I cannot wait! :rolleyes:
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Yep.

What happens is you invite a foreign culture that does not agree with your values it forms pocket societies. Integration/multiculturalism is a fantasy dreamt up by bleeding heart numpties. It's idealistic at best.

The thing I find a lot with these people is they don't live in the real world when I've questioned them in person. They seem to live up in their heads where the world is this utopian society and people wouldn't cut your head off for drawing pictures of Mohammed.... lol. They've got, I've found this kind of unfounded optimism..... it borderlines delusion at times. I don't know why they do it, I've questioned whether it's ego based ie i'm a good person look at me everyone, whether it's to avoid the painful truth ie they can't take reality for what it is so attempt to distort it. I'm not sure.... it just confuses me.

Angela Merkel clearly doesn't live in the real world. This is why the UK needs to leave the EU otherwise it too shall be dragged down by the stupid decisions of the few.
 
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Has anyone who is opposed of letting any people in spent even a second thinking about the life for Syrian/Iraqi refugees in these refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey?

Close to four million people, housed in tents, indefinitely (no change in sight, no prospective of ending the war) and only thing to do is to wait for a daily food ration package coming from UN? UNICEF tries to arrange some schools for kids between age 5-12 or so I think, but what prospects of life do they have on those camps?

Is it ok to have close to 4 million people stored like cattle in camps, just maintained with the logistically optimal distribution of nutritiously neutral and efficient food provided with minimal budget of UNHCR?

Personally I'd be happy and grateful for reaching the camp. But after spending there a month or two, I would for sure start of thinking methods to make my life better. And if you are on a camp with over 1 million people in Lebanon that has 4.5million people, what chances do you have of "integrating" to local society? -> Only option is to go somewhere else. And not surprisingly they want to head where they think they have the best shot.

I'm not saying that we should have totally open-doors policy. But I don't find it so unfair that they want more from their life than indefinite storage on camps with no prospects to build their lives.

Compare "immigration criticals" of Europe with Donald Trump:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/02/donald-trump-racist-claims-mexico-rapes
rapists, criminals and drug dealers, I feel certain echo bouncing here...
 
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