The EU Migrant Crisis

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Yeah you just happen to be one of the three, suggesting blacking up to go and commit crimes

I didn't say that. I was talking about going to lorries with kiwi fruit and my friend Stanley, nothing wrong with that? :confused:

Some people I don't know. :rolleyes:

:D My point is it has to stop, we are going to have 1 billion people flocking to the EU as its a soft touch and easy money.

The beginning of the end am afraid. :(
 
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I'm reasonably sure the next great development which will see the human race through the next few centuries isn't coming from this thread, and it's sort of turned into a ****ing contest.

Maybe it's done.
 
I'm reasonably sure the next great development which will see the human race through the next few centuries isn't coming from this thread, and it's sort of turned into a ****ing contest.

Maybe it's done.

its going to be the end, look the danger is that Islam is a religion and an ideology that's what makes it different from Hitlers Nazi ideology, if we dont start to think of ways to return these Muslims back to country of origin all is lost.
 
its going to be the end, look the danger is that Islam is a religion and an ideology that's what makes it different from Hitlers Nazi ideology, if we dont start to think of ways to return these Muslims back to country of origin all is lost.

I thought your objections were based on not having the required infrastructure or funding in place to take refugees. Now it's about sending Muslims home.

What a revelation. Nobody could ever have guessed at that being the real issue at all.
 
I'm reasonably sure the next great development which will see the human race through the next few centuries isn't coming from this thread, and it's sort of turned into a ****ing contest.

Maybe it's done.

No it has to be discussed in a sensible manner.

They now saying they will pay councils from the overseas aid budget.
But what impact will it have on your community?

This is the problem in Sweden and Germany, the impact is huge in social terms.

Do we really need that impact on our lives, when we already over stressed with NHS, Schools etc.

You have to see the bigger picture.
 
No it has to be discussed in a sensible manner.

They now saying they will pay councils from the overseas aid budget.
But what impact will it have on your community?

This is the problem in Sweden and Germany, the impact is huge in social terms.

Do we really need that impact on our lives, when we already over stressed with NHS, Schools etc.

You have to see the bigger picture.

Where does saying that you're going to black up and go robbing people with a knife because some sort of liberal/media agenda means you won't get prosecuted fit into your sensible discussion?

Or does sensible discussion to you just mean ranting with people who think the same way you do until everyone can feel a bit better?
 
I thought your objections were based on not having the required infrastructure or funding in place to take refugees. Now it's about sending Muslims home.

What a revelation. Nobody could ever have guessed at that being the real issue at all.

refugees are supposed to be in a country till there own is safe. you suggest that they stay forever?
 
This all sounds a bit true Scotsman. What aspect of the eligible pool of voters do you think you are capturing by insisting on 30 years of paying taxes and NI contributions? Is 30 years of paying minimal amounts of tax and NI getting you a better class of voter than someone who has paid only 6 years of tax and NI but the number is much larger? What about people who were born abroad before moving here as a child, are legally British, consider themselves British, and meet your tax and NI requirements?

Or is it just a way of building yourself an echo chamber?

It's about people who have had a genuine stake in this country and spent their life contributing to it.

I well understand you don't like the terms of reference as you realise what the outcome of any vote by 'real stakeholders' is likely to be. The electorate spoke on this issue a few months back and I appreciate you and those like you may not like that message. However, as a democracy you have to accept it.

I suspect you approve of the Alex Salmond way of doing things i.e. the people spoke but they got it wrong so we will just have to keep on voting until they get it right.
 
Where does saying that you're going to black up and go robbing people with a knife because some sort of liberal/media agenda means you won't get prosecuted fit into your sensible discussion?

Or does sensible discussion to you just mean ranting with people who think the same way you do until everyone can feel a bit better?

I take it you don't do satirical humour. :rolleyes:

I am not ranting about anything, I am asking how can we deal with the situation that has come about.

These people could be anyone and mean anyone, trust me the is some naughty people around, and thats just the English ones. ;)
 
It's about people who have had a genuine stake in this country and spent their life contributing to it.

I well understand you don't like the terms of reference as you realise what the outcome of any vote by 'real stakeholders' is likely to be. The electorate spoke on this issue a few months back and I appreciate you and those like you may not like that message. However, as a democracy you have to accept it.

I suspect you approve of the Alex Salmond way of doing things i.e. the people spoke but they got it wrong so we will just have to keep on voting until they get it right.

You really think you have to be aged 48 or over to have a say?
 
Where does saying that you're going to black up and go robbing people with a knife because some sort of liberal/media agenda means you won't get prosecuted fit into your sensible discussion?

Or does sensible discussion to you just mean ranting with people who think the same way you do until everyone can feel a bit better?

Local areas of cities where immigrants were housed (i.e. Gotheborg) turned into a no-go muslim ghettos. Imagine you had your house or flat nearby and you wanted to sell. Who would buy? These are the real problems people are facing, do you even understand how serious this is? The whole communities ruined for some stupid multi-cultural experiment now out of control.
 
Local areas of cities where immigrants were housed (i.e. Gotheborg) turned into a no-go muslim ghettos. Imagine you had your house or flat nearby and you wanted to sell. Who would buy? These are the real problems people are facing, do you even understand how serious this is? The whole communities ruined for some stupid multi-cultural experiment now out of control.

Sounds a bit like some places in Stoke/Hanley.
 
It's about people who have had a genuine stake in this country and spent their life contributing to it.

I well understand you don't like the terms of reference as you realise what the outcome of any vote by 'real stakeholders' is likely to be. The electorate spoke on this issue a few months back and I appreciate you and those like you may not like that message. However, as a democracy you have to accept it.

I suspect you approve of the Alex Salmond way of doing things i.e. the people spoke but they got it wrong so we will just have to keep on voting until they get it right.

I just find it interesting you would assume that the only people who have a genuine stake in the country are those who are 15 years or so away from retirement and claiming a pension. As opposed to anyone who hasn't been working long enough to put 30 years of tax contributions in regardless of their other achievements such as how many people they employ, how much they spend in the local economy when procuring goods and services etc.

We each hold differing opinions it seems on who would be fit to vote on decisions affecting the future of the country, you're the only one who seems to think your opinion is somehow the correct one.
 
The parasites will be jumping on the UK gravy train as soon as they have their citizenship in Germany. Living off all the handouts with no intention of earning a living.

Breed like rabbits and infest more of this country. Lock your daughters up especially if under age, joyous times ahead!
 
I take it you don't do satirical humour. :rolleyes:

I am familiar with it, you weren't being satirical. Neither was it funny.

You can keep digging if you like, you already claimed that it wasn't about blacking up and that in fact you are so bad at writing that it just came across that way. Now it's satire apparently. Pick one.
 
refugees are supposed to be in a country till there own is safe. you suggest that they stay forever?

My point was that in that post you took a turn from your objection being an economic one to it being on the grounds that they are Muslim. Not really a surprise but it happens quite often on here that if you give the stereotypical anti-immigration UKIP supporting don't-call-us-racist brigade enough rope then the racial prejudices tend to appear in the end.
 
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