What a silly man 'keying £100k Aston Martin'

randal said:
I think it should be a case of punishment fitting the crime. So once he's paid off the damage, he should be charged with keeping the guy's car detailed for the duration of his ownership.

Hit him financially, his time and throw a bit of humility in there at the same time.
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I'd imagine he wouldn't want him anywhere near his car again.

Surely a more fitting punishment would be some sort of community service. If he'd keyed my car I'd rather him be picking litter up from the side of the roads for 200hrs than sitting watching TV in prison.
 
timmeh said:
I'd imagine he wouldn't want him anywhere near his car again.

Surely a more fitting punishment would be some sort of community service. If he'd keyed my car I'd rather him be picking litter up from the side of the roads for 200hrs than sitting watching TV in prison.
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cleaning graffiti id say.

they've found that tackling graffiti really helps with a lot of problem sin neighbourhoods.

iirc the police chief in new York made it a massive priority to remove and punish people doing it.
 
I'm probably going to get mauled for this, but can someone explain why should the community get the benefit of this guy's reparations when it was one person who suffered the brunt of his actions?

If the guy had torched a school bus, or a community centre or some other public facility then I could completely understand the community service sentiment. However in this instance it is one person ruining the property of another, so in my opinion his remunerations (once court expenses are paid by the defendant) should go to the victim.
 
The victim has insurance, everyone that drives has insurance and suffers the increased premium costs because people like this exist.
 
Yeah prison won't make sense... High community service hours...6 to 8 weeks and then state if he wants to continue to receive benefits he'll need to do full time community service l
 
randal said:
I'm probably going to get mauled for this, but can someone explain why should the community get the benefit of this guy's reparations when it was one person who suffered the brunt of his actions?

If the guy had torched a school bus, or a community centre or some other public facility then I could completely understand the community service sentiment. However in this instance it is one person ruining the property of another, so in my opinion his remunerations (once court expenses are paid by the defendant) should go to the victim.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
The only thing that will deter people of this mentality is if they have to foot the bill. A harsh amount of community service and a bill for several thousand pounds ought to focus what little mind he must have not to repeat again!
 
UberTiger said:
It's not just 'keying a car' though, is it?

It's essentially tantamount to £8k worth of theft.

If he hadn't have been caught, the driver would be out of pocket £8k because of this fool, and probably will still be out of pocket for a long time until he gets paid back somehow.

Same with any other car that gets keyed, the car owner has essentially been robbed of the cost of repair.
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lol theft. the poor fellow didn't profit from his crime.

i hope he pleads temporary insanity and gets to cut a deal like john doe in se7en :D

hopefully this experience will deter him from doing anything similar in the future.
 
Poor fellow? :confused:

The victim is still out of pocket £8k either way.

Maybe the theif should switch to real robbery instead if they don't want to risk the same sentence for only 10 seconds of gratification instead of real monetary profit.
 
Tefal said:
so what level of property damage in pounds do you think warrents a prison sentence?
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Well, considering it apparently costs £40,000 a year to stick someone in jail, it doesn't seem very cost effective to jail someone for causing £8,000 worth of damage. Make the guy pay it all back in instalments, or have him work it off doing community work for minimum wage would be what i would make happen if I was in charge.

Jail should be reserved for real crimes, not petty crimes like this. Then maybe they wouldnt be over crowded and costing us so much money.
 
Mark A said:
Well, considering it apparently costs £40,000 a year to stick someone in jail, it doesn't seem very cost effective to jail someone for causing £8,000 worth of damage. Make the guy pay it all back in instalments, or have him work it off doing community work for minimum wage would be what i would make happen if I was in charge.

Jail should be reserved for real crimes, not petty crimes like this. Then maybe they wouldnt be over crowded and costing us so much money.
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How will you make him pay it back if there's no consequences (prison) if he refuses?
 
Mark A said:
Well, considering it apparently costs £40,000 a year to stick someone in jail, it doesn't seem very cost effective to jail
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that's not what i asked i wanted to know what £ value you put on property damage before its jail worthy.

for insatnce is slashing a picture on the wall of an ikea demo room jail worthy, or how about slashing the mona lisa?
 
Tefal said:
for insatnce is slashing a picture on the wall of an ikea demo room jail worthy, or how about slashing the mona lisa?
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Neither case deserves jail imho - both can be repaired and both are insured - you'll forgive me if my heart doesn't bleed for insurance companies.

What it does deserve is a **** load of community service and restriction of liberty (i.e. tagging, curfew etc) - I'm not talking 100 hrs picking up litter - I'm talking real hard graft doing something that really benefits the community - like landscaping a local park, redoing a childrens play ground, clearing rights of way etc.
 
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He's an idiot but he doesn't deserve all that much hate. You guys are talking like he deserves capital punishment or something, it's just a petty crime. Poor 100k car guy, poor, poor him.
 
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