Sounds exactly like over-population......
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Sounds exactly like over-population......
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Lol facts, why bother with them.
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Two can play at that game:-
UK
Population: 64,100,000
Size: 243,610 KM/2
People per square KM: 264
Taiwan
Population: 23,361,147
Size: 36,190 KM/2
People per square KM: 646
We're no where near "full".
No - it sounds exactly like the services and infrastructure have not been procurred correctly, planned correctly and/or funded correctly.
The problems can be resolved without the need to reduce the population, ergo the problems are not caused by over population.
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And how to we fare against, say, the Netherlands?
I lived there for a year. It felt horribly overcrowded.
Man i love people/sqkm arguments...
Seriously though, its not about the ability of a country to PHYSICALLY hold people, its about how the SOCIAL SYSTEMS can hold them.
Everything is currently underfunded for the jobs that they are meant to achieve.
If you want Immigrants, we have to drop the NHS, its as simple is that (also dont care, its a nightmare funding that roach).
Seriously though, its not about the ability of a country to PHYSICALLY hold people, its about how the SOCIAL SYSTEMS can hold them.
Everything is currently underfunded for the jobs that they are meant to achieve.
If you want Immigrants, we have to drop the NHS, its as simple is that (also dont care, its a nightmare funding that roach).
Where does this magic money come from for all this?
MMore taxes from those already here.
Roads, schools, housing, etc
Loss of green land - I certainly don't want the UK to look like Taiwan
Culture tensions
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LOL is Taiwan our marker in the sand? Is that what we're aspiring to be? Jeez you're deluded.
"hold on lads, it's not as bad as we thought, Taiwan has more people per square mile, we're fine!"
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What a load of nonsense.
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Better planning and procurement (i.e. re-instatement of a central government purchasing authority rather than the piecemeal approach and siphoning of tax payer funds to private business) would negate the need for tax rises.
Taiwan is ace and it's far from "full":-
Tapei also feels far less crowded than London - but it is more modern and better planned. I've always said we should build another capital somewhere else with modern infrastructure and better transport links.
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Surely the definition of overpopulation is the ability to feed and water those that inhabit a land, not the ability to fit that number of people shoulder to shoulder in a given space. I do believe the UK has to import more food then it produces? So therefore it is over populated.
That's completely irrelevant, Japan is ace but you don't aspire to their population density because we have a completely different cultural make up to them. I don't even know how you continue to post, it must be a nightmare trying to argue against the sheer pragmatic logic that's being put to you in every post
Taiwan is ace and it's far from "full":-
Seriously?
Farmland is obviously useless, just urbanize everything.
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And socialists always believe there is unlimited money and in the face of there not being unlimited money like to raise taxes. Nobody apart from socialists and the people who would benefit from socialism like increased taxes.
I'd say so. Because if our population density applied worldwide there would be even more food problems around the world.
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Lets take the wonderful liberal viewpoint that the planet can support infinite pop. growth with zero worries, using Bangledesh as an example and habitable land.
We could "support" 65 billion people, of course in reality they would all be dead (LONG before it ever got that crowded) as they would starve or kill each other to survive.
We could "support" 65 billion people, of course in reality they would all be dead (LONG before it ever got that crowded) as they would starve or kill each other to survive.
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That's a really bad definition for overpopulation. So we're over populated but food is still plentiful and we still waste a 1/3 of the food we buy? That's a really crap metric.
We import a lot of food, do we want to have to import even more? If we had the same food distribution problems as was experienced in WW2, we would be in a much bigger problem today. It's also not particularly environmentally friendly to have to import food either.
Looks like Wiki agrees...
Overpopulation occurs when a population of a species exceeds the carrying capacity of its ecological niche. Overpopulation is a function of the number of individuals compared to the relevant resources, such as the water and essential nutrients they need to survive.
The carrying capacity of a biological species in an environment is the maximum population size of the species that the environment can sustain indefinitely, given the food, habitat, water, and other necessities available in the environment. In population biology, carrying capacity is defined as the environment's maximal load,[1] which is different from the concept of population equilibrium.
I'd say that we are over populated. Just because there are countries with a greater population per area is not good reason to increase ours further.
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