Case suggestions please

[Quartz]

You're not going to like my suggestion because it fails most of your criteria but will work wonderfully. It worked for me for over 2 years.

That suggestion is to use a Silverstone FT02 rotated case and remove the fans. Then use a passive PSU and Nofan passive CPU cooler. The gentle updraft from the CPU cooler and the PSU will prevent dust ingress, but will not be sufficient to suck dust in.

BTW with regard to the room being dusty, have you washed the room - floor, walls, and ceiling?

 

[NirK]

Which exact Model are you refering to?



No good that has top vents, opposite to what im looking for. Current case has a couple of Demciflex filters on it and while that stops a lot of dust it still gets in eventually (have to clean it and fans inside every3-6 months or so which is bearable) and that case only has side vents, no mesh at all either. Top vents would be useless for me id be cleaning it out too often. Front mesh would probably be just as bad especially with a front fan to hoover it all inward.

PS Does nobody else have this issue with top vents/Mesh cases? I can not believe the internals stay clean even in a relatively speaking clean dust free location.

That is why I said "silverstone magnetic fan filters" on the top. They fit over the moduvent slots and no dust can get in.

 

[smilertoo]

I liked the look of that new all glass case but i cant imagine its very quiet.

 

[Crunchy]

Don't think I saw this suggest, from what I can see it's literally just a black box

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-127-NX&groupid=2362&catid=2277

 

[bitsNbobs]

Tempted to try an air purifier myself (the better ones apparently filter most of the dust out the air) - having several systems running it just seems to pull dust from the rest of the house into the room and hence into the cases.

Not a bad idea Rroff, have considered an ioniser for the room but was never sure if they actually worked.

If the mesh was any finer there would be next to no airflow getting past it, my R4 definitely has screw in covers on the side and two top vents to seal them when not in use, not only do they block them but they have sound proofing on them.

Clearly you have not seen a fine filter such as demciflex item. They are medical grade nylon mesh, they make the filters (ill call them wire mesh) in most case suggestions look pointless.

You're not going to like my suggestion because it fails most of your criteria but will work wonderfully. It worked for me for over 2 years.

That suggestion is to use a Silverstone FT02 rotated case and remove the fans. Then use a passive PSU and Nofan passive CPU cooler. The gentle updraft from the CPU cooler and the PSU will prevent dust ingress, but will not be sufficient to suck dust in.

BTW with regard to the room being dusty, have you washed the room - floor, walls, and ceiling?

A nice idea but too much expense and messing around. The room is spotless, even recently freshly painted. Its sun and heat in a small environment that causes the problem nothing more. I think some people just have trouble understanding as they have never had the issue or seen it before, think of it like a car thats freshly cleaned inside and out and left in the sun, you then get in the car and you can see all the dust floating around due to the heat... Heat rises and with it so does dust, i dunno how to explain something people have not seen or understand any better

Poor quality mesh cases (which seems to be 90% of them) especially top vent cases with no mesh or filter in my room would be an utter disaster. I appreciate all suggestions, especially unique ideas like Rroff air purifer idea above. Your idea is even a good one in its own regards. People just suggesting cases with things i do not want and then not only that but arguing cases with filters are as good as super fine quality dust filters is just ridiculous. Most of the so called fan filters (I say most not all) on many of these cases are more mesh than filter material Some are just crap perforated plastic sheet. They are not dust filters no matter how many times someone says they are.

Im gonna go with the bitfenix suggested on another forum now anyway. No silly vents, no silly modding things, no so called dust filters which are actually just perforated plastic or metal over huge vent holes. My 4th 3.5" drive ill just get an external enclosure for. Not ideal but more ideal than a dust ladden computer.

 

[smilertoo]

These filters look pretty good, will low power noctuas draw air through them or do they need more powerful fans to overcome the fineness of the mesh.

 

[C64]

I forgot to bring up the Phanteks Enthoo Pro M

it's also a good case for £60 huge 192mm cpu cooler height clearance and shares the same innards as the much more expensive evolv atx.

Which bitfenix case did you go for ? btw the filters do work who cares what it's made of if it works and doesn't restrict airflow that much ?
I got a silverstone raven rv03 dust doesn't build up much at all but some gets through.
What you should do is buy an air bed pump and give the insides a blast now and then with the thin nozzle.

They are not too bad those air bed pumps for blasting out dust obviously be better with more power but not bad at all used one for 10 years.

 

[sastusbulbas]

So basically you had a couple of crap cases, the exact same dust problems that plague most pc users, but decide to reply with poor attitude and the inability to see what actually contributes to dust ingress.

You have bought another average case actually pretty similar to what you have, loads of gaps for dust ingress. Will you be happy with it in the long run? I doubt that, but hats of to you and your dust.

Does it really have that open mesh for two 120mm fans on the side panel?

 

[bitsNbobs]

These filters look pretty good, will low power noctuas draw air through them or do they need more powerful fans to overcome the fineness of the mesh.

Do not see why you would need more powerful fans, if a hole allows air to go through it air goes through it. If mesh or similar impeded air flow then they would not of started to use cheap knock off filters on cases would they. The amount air that will FLOW INTO a fan is limited by the fans power nothing more, if it can draw air into its blades it will. Exhausting air is another story if a fan is trying to push more air than there is room (or restriction) for then yes that may be an issue. Filters are for air in though and they are not air tight.

So basically you had a couple of crap cases,

Nope very happy with the current case, as explained only because its damaged is it being replaced. Thats why i wanted something similar and not what you want to try to convince me i should have.

the exact same dust problems that plague most pc users, but decide to reply with poor attitude and the inability to see what actually contributes to dust ingress.

The current case does not suffer from it as stated it can go months with no build up due to no silly mesh or top vents.

You have bought another average case actually pretty similar to what you have,

You have seen my current case, when did i invite you round to view it exactly????????

loads of gaps for dust ingress.

Just not as many as a case with holes literally drilled in the top though eh????

Will you be happy with it in the long run? I doubt that, but hats of to you and your dust.

Hats off to you for seeing my current case in a dream and being psychic about future purchases i make

Does it really have that open mesh for two 120mm fans on the side panel?

Dunno what you are on about my current case has no case fans and the system in it has run fine for 7+ years.

Thanks for your angry and repeated opinions. Im sorry you find my attitude poor, hopefully with this post ive stepped it up a notch for you. Now hopefully you will be a calm happy chap rather than an angry one because someone disagrees with your opinion.

 

[sastusbulbas]

I was guessing you bought the Bitfenix, my appologies but what else can be done but guessing when someone is as obtuse as you.

You have to laugh though, people here have 3+ 140mm fans, multiple GPU's, overclocked CPU's, large CPU coolers, in open meshed top, bottom, front cases, with windows, and they too only need to clean filters every month or few.


So what case did you have? What Demciflex filters? What case did you buy?

 

[bitsNbobs]

I was guessing you bought the Bitfenix, my appologies but what else can be done but guessing when someone is as obtuse as you.

You have to laugh though, people here have 3+ 140mm fans, multiple GPU's, overclocked CPU's, large CPU coolers, in open meshed top, bottom, front cases, with windows, and they too only need to clean filters every month or few.


So what case did you have? What Demciflex filters? What case did you buy?

I would not let yourself worry about any of it any further. Theres a good lad.

 

[sastusbulbas]

I would not let yourself worry about any of it any further. Theres a good lad.

I am not worried about it.

After forum members trying to be genuinely helpfull and educational, I thought you may well have had the courtesy to actually state what you have had, and what your getting. Sorry, but I felt all we got was rudeness and dismisive attitude. I thought you then got tetchy when others reply in kind.

Now, say someone with a similar issue to you comes along, reads the thread, they will never see your own sollution to a dust problem you thought was more excessive than others were suffering.
It's a shame attitudes directed the thread in such a manner, I am sure I am not the only one who would have liked to have seen more genuine discussion on simple understated cases that perform well in dusty environments, and a happy conclusion with a chosen case stated.

We can only conclude what we deduce from your replies. And it's honestly disappointing. You should be leaving this thread in better spirits, whether we all agree or not.

I do hope your new case is satisfactory, and wish you all the best in future endevours. My appologies for any untoward attutude and rudeness you felt expressed within this forum thread.

PS, I am 44 yrs old with three kids, hardly a lad

All the best!

 

[bitsNbobs]

I am not worried about it.

After forum members trying to be genuinely helpfull and educational, I thought you may well have had the courtesy to actually state what you have had, and what your getting. Sorry, but I felt all we got was rudeness and dismisive attitude. I thought you then got tetchy when others reply in kind.

Im sorry it is playing on your mind so much. As said do not let it worry you. any further.

Now, say someone with a similar issue to you comes along, reads the thread, they will never see your own sollution to a dust problem you thought was more excessive than others were suffering.

I pointed out what case i am purchasing.

It's a shame attitudes directed the thread in such a manner, I am sure I am not the only one who would have liked to have seen more genuine discussion on simple understated cases that perform well in dusty environments, and a happy conclusion with a chosen case stated.

Yes so would i unfortunately the same brand was repeated and the same response of NO from myself was repeated. Fortunately despite this the conclusion was me making a choice of case due to additional information from elsewhere.

We can only conclude what we deduce from your replies. And it's honestly disappointing.

I was disappointed with the suggestions also, so the thread as a whole met the criteria of disappointing start to end.

You should be leaving this thread in better spirits, whether we all agree or not.

I am very happy, the suggestion i received elsewhere matched my guidelines in 99% of regards and i have no doubt will suit me fine.

I do hope your new case is satisfactory, and wish you all the best in future endevours. My appologies for any untoward attutude and rudeness you felt expressed within this forum thread.

I have no such feelings. or opinions on any individual that participated, my only opinion is the suggestions unfortunately were not what i required.

PS, I am 44 yrs old with three kids, hardly a lad

All the best!

Congratulations

 

[sastusbulbas]

No worries, more bemusement at this thread, though it's losing it's entertainment value.

And congratulations to you too!

PS, I enjoyed this similar post elsewhere.

Quote,
Basically as the title says recommendations please for a half decent upto £50-60 case with no stupid dust magnet top vents. Would prefer no silly front mesh panels either if possible. Basically i do not want a dust collecting device.

Something plain and simple with good internals is what im after like...
Corsair Carbide Series 100R
or
Fractal Design Core 2500

In term of design only minus the top vents (ARGH!)

Its seriously driving me bonkers why are all modern cases full of cheap flimsy mesh panels and stupid top vent holes???? Is this a must market to the hipsters thing??? Or is it just gimmicks for the stupid/compulsive cleaners?
Oh and whats with the lets make "gaming" cases that look like a reject Michael Bay Transformer???? I know its a matter of taste but my god come on.

As far as i can tell its not air flow or cooling that demands it, a current power guzzling room heater of an old Q8200 system i have on 24/7 as a server, runs nice and cool in a old style case with no silly mesh has 2 DVD drives, old 9800GT graphics card and 4 HDDs.

So why would i need extra vents for a modern CPU that runs at half the power and a third of the heat???????????????????


Someone help pllllllllease before i go fully insane .... wibble

 

[bitsNbobs]

Im glad im not alone. Wish i could say that was my post also, alas no. Fractal Design cases as its clear throughout this thread are not for me... vents or no vents.

Got my Bitfenix Comrade Yesterday, not bad for a budget case, though like all modern stuff flimsy compared to what it (no idea of the brand) replaces and is circa 15 years old.

If you wanted to ask where the suggestion came from and where else i had posted you only had to ask... Toms Hardware.

Quite worrying in a psychotic but harmless manner why you would spend time trying to track that down though.

 

[sastusbulbas]

Got my Bitfenix Comrade Yesterday, not bad for a budget case.

The suggestion came from Toms Hardware.

Why you would spend time trying to track that down though.

Half your budget too, £30 for a case is pretty good, though you have to remove the front panel for dust filter access, it won't need cleaned often unless you add fans though.

As for the quote, tracking? This is not the only forum I visit, I was pretty involved in audio, cycling and computer forums in general. This one is most convenient as it's at the top of my bookmarks and I only shop at two locations for PC hardware, this being one of them.

I only usually appear in specific forums when I am thinking of doing something, I have a few projects to start tidying and working on hence my browsing PC forums.