Smoking in Vehicles 01/10/15

Burnsy2023 · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:29

So incase you weren't aware, the law changes on the 1st October which is summarised below:

ALL private vehicles (including hire cars) must be smokefree if they are enclosed, there is more than one person present and one of them is under 18.

It will be an offence for a person of any age to smoke in a car (or other private vehicle) with anyone under 18 present. And for a driver (including those aged 17 and people with a provisional licence) not to stop someone smoking in these circumstances.

The law does not apply if the driver is 17 years old and is on their own in the car.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/137...ou_need_to_know_before_October_1/?ref=mr&lp=1

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2015/9780111126004/pdfs/ukdsiem_9780111126004_en.pdf

Thoughts?

rjk · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:35

good. should be totally banned whilst driving anyway.

probably wont be enforced very well though.

Glaucus · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:36

Good, see far to many parents harming their Kids

Glanza · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:38

Good but no doubt you'll still see people doing it as I still pass what must be 5 people a day on their phones still.

tom_e · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:42

I like the fact that a 17yr old can smoke in their own car but anyone over 18 in the car isn't allowed.

Chris1712 · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:44

So if a 17 year old is driving he can smoke, but not if he's a passenger? Huehuehue.

tom_e · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:45

Chris1712 said:
So if a 17 year old is driving he can smoke, but not if he's a passenger? Huehuehue.

That's how I read the BBC's explanation. Also even if the 17yr old driver is sat there smoking his 18yr old mate sat next to him isn't allowed.

matt_fsr · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:48

Nanny-stateism designed to look like a health measure.

As if there's not enough problems on the roads, without creating even more barely enforcable laws.

Why not use Police time to actually clamp down on people driving without licences, insurance, or unfit cars and actually causing a serious danger?

Uriel · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:52

ridiculous that people are allowed to drive while holding lit firesticks anyway. What could possibly go wrong?

Smoking while driving should be automatic points and fine at the very least.

Edit: Evidence - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2331646 1.5x to double the risk of accident while smoking.

For reference this is a risk level comparable to a blood alcohol level between the English and Scottish drink drive limits: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/wcm/r.../Content/20_speed/speed_and_accident_risk.htm

Dave85 · 14 Sep 2015 at 16:54

Uriel said:
ridiculous that people are allowed to drive while holding lit firesticks anyway. What could possibly go wrong?

Smoking while driving should be automatic points and fine at the very least.

Agreed should be 100% banned no excuses

Burnsy2023 · 14 Sep 2015 at 17:07

matt_fsr said:
Why not use Police time to actually clamp down on people driving without licences, insurance, or unfit cars and actually causing a serious danger?

They can't, they're too busy out catching rapists and murderers. :rolleyes:

ttaskmaster · 14 Sep 2015 at 17:11

Uriel said:
Smoking while driving should be automatic points and fine at the very least.

Bad idea, unless you first remove all the retards in other vehicles that are causing people to smoke in the first place!

eatcustard · 14 Sep 2015 at 17:27

Ban everything just to be sure

dacads · 14 Sep 2015 at 17:31

eatcustard said:
Ban everything just to be sure

+1 problem solved

Kenai · 14 Sep 2015 at 17:31

Chris1712 said:
So if a 17 year old is driving he can smoke, but not if he's a passenger? Huehuehue.

He also can't smoke if he has a passenger regardless of age, as the criteria is if any occupant is under 18 and more than one person is present, it doesn't stipulate whether they are driver or passenger.

So they can happily smoke on their own but would have to stop the moment anyone else got in as a passenger.

Dis86 · 14 Sep 2015 at 17:59

Don't you have to be 18 to buy cigs now anyways?

Doug73458 · 14 Sep 2015 at 18:02

Not a bad thing really (coming from a smoker)

opstrat · 14 Sep 2015 at 18:37

when you ban smoking all together, remove the stereos and fancy mmi systems while you are at it.

Diagro · 14 Sep 2015 at 18:55

How can a 17yr old smoke anyway? The legal age to buy cigs is 18.

And if someone older is supplying then SHAME ON THEM!

pastymuncher · 14 Sep 2015 at 18:58

What's the point because it will never be enforced properly. Everytime I go out I see loads of people driving while using mobiles. Nothing will change.