Nearly 100,000 children in England 'homeless'.

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Nearly 100,000 children in England are living in temporary accommodation after being made homeless, new figures show.

At the end of June, 66,980 individuals or families were registered as having no home of their own - an increase of 12% from the same date last year.

Almost a third of them had lost a home in the private rented sector.

Homelessness charities blamed housing benefit failing to keep pace with rent rises - but the government said there was a "strong welfare safety net".

'Grim picture'

Most homeless families with children are living in self-contained accommodation - where there is sole use of a kitchen and bathroom - the government figures show.

But more than 2,500 are living in bed and breakfast accommodation - 25% higher than a year earlier.

Of those households, 830 have been in B&Bs for more than 6 weeks, 36% higher than a year earlier.
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Given the factors involved, high rents, shortage of housing, benefit cuts is anyone really surprised?
 
Can't afford rent, can afford B&Bs?

Most homeless families with children are living in self-contained accommodation - where there is sole use of a kitchen and bathroom - the government figures show.
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What makes them homeless if they've got this?

Anyone renting could be viewed as living in temporary accommodation.
 
tom_e said:
Can't afford rent, can afford B&Bs?



What makes them homeless if they've got this?

Anyone renting could be viewed as living in temporary accommodation.
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It's down to things like lack of housing that they can afford even with the likes of housing benefit.

I suspect a lot of the ones in "self contained" accommodation are currently living in things like out of season Chalets and other accommodation that is really intended to only be used for a few weeks at a time, or is far too small for the family (IE a family with 2 or 3 children living in a one bed flat).
 
Absolutely disgusting which ever way you look at it.
But don't worry the immigrant's that are coming here will be housed and fed.
 
Delvis said:
Even so, I assume you get his point?
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The people in the story also appear to be clothed and Fed so, no, I don't get his point.

Isn't there something positive here? We have the ability to house and feed homeless families in self contained accommodation. It shows the safety net works in many situations.
 
tom_e said:
Can't afford rent, can afford B&Bs?

What makes them homeless if they've got this?

Anyone renting could be viewed as living in temporary accommodation.
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You realise it's not some 5-star B&B in the Quantocks they're staying in right? It'll be some crappy £15 a night job somewhere like Margate.

If you're genuinely confused as to what homelessness means then I suggest you have a read of: http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_a...introduction/legal_definition_of_homelessness
 
Werewolf said:
It's down to things like lack of housing that they can afford even with the likes of housing benefit.

I suspect a lot of the ones in "self contained" accommodation are currently living in things like out of season Chalets and other accommodation that is really intended to only be used for a few weeks at a time, or is far too small for the family (IE a family with 2 or 3 children living in a one bed flat).
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sounds like they are only used for a few weeks - tis only a minority who are in B&B for more than 6 weeks - the rest are seemingly rehoused a bit quicker
 
[TW]Fox;28603288 said:
The people in the story also appear to be clothed and Fed so, no, I don't get his point.

Isn't there something positive here? We have the ability to house and feed homeless families in self contained accommodation. It shows the safety net works in many situations.
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some of them have to spend a few weeks in a B&B though, most for less than 6 weeks.... what a horrible country we live in
 
[TW]Fox;28603288 said:
The people in the story also appear to be clothed and Fed so, no, I don't get his point.

Isn't there something positive here? We have the ability to house and feed homeless families in self contained accommodation. It shows the safety net works in many situations.
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What I mean is, you can see why people would get angry or more vocal about this sort of thing.

For instance, surely you can see why someone would be angry about housing migrants when there are already 100,000 children here in the UK that are in temporary housing after being made homeless, yet the government would rather be seen talking about this story rather than a story about UK children living in temporary housing.
 
tom_e said:
Can't afford rent, can afford B&Bs?
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You do realise that when they become homeless, the council pays to put them up in the B&Bs, right?

So when their landlord puts the price up such that they can't afford to rent even with housing benefit, they then become "homeless", and the council has to pay to put them up in B&Bs. At taxpayer expense.

So basically, our complete lack of housing is great news for landlords, who can put prices up every year if they choose, and not so great news for everyone who pays tax.

But please, do carry on blasting the poor who can't afford to rent. They deserve your scorn, because they're poor.

tom_e said:
What makes them homeless if they've got this?

Anyone renting could be viewed as living in temporary accommodation.
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They're homeless because this is accommodation that the council provides and pays for. Did we lose the ability to read and comprehend, GD? Or is it because you guys have never been close to being homeless, and don't know how it works?
 
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FoxEye said:
You do realise that when they become homeless, the council pays to put them up in the B&Bs, right?

So when their landlord puts the price up such that they can't afford to rent even with housing benefit, they then become "homeless", and the council has to pay to put them up in B&Bs. At taxpayer expense.

So basically, our complete lack of housing is great news for landlords, who can put prices up every year if they choose, and not so great news for everyone who pays tax.

But please, do carry on blasting the poor who can't afford to rent. They deserve your scorn, because they're poor.
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I didn't know that no, I wasn't pouring scorn on anyone.
They were legitimate questions as I was not aware that the B&Bs were funded by councils or that "homeless" doesn't just mean on the streets.

Correct I've never been unfortunate enough to be close to being homeless so I don't know how it works, but now I've been given some insight just a pity it came with a shovel of your ****** attitude to go with it.
 
OK, I was probably a bit harsh. Sorry about that.

But the prevailing attitude here is normally that the poor deserve everything they get, and your post seemed to be heading in that direction.
 
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