I see. Sounds like I made right choice then. I could have saved £100 getting the Seagate's but buy cheap, buy twice as they say. Especially as they were probably close to or end of their warranty, plus they are drives I'd considering using more for computer storage rather than in a NAS or server.
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I see. Sounds like I made right choice then. I could have saved £100 getting the Seagate's but buy cheap, buy twice as they say. Especially as they were probably close to or end of their warranty, plus they are drives I'd considering using more for computer storage rather than in a NAS or server.
Same. I've got 4 WD 2TB Greens that have been in a N54L (None Raid) since the N40L got released (4-5 years?) still going strong. In the Gen8's I have 2 lots of 3TB reds in Raid5.
I know it's pot luck, but I've never had a WD drive fail on me.
I know it's pot luck, but I've never had a WD drive fail on me.
Hello Gentlemen and Experts, the story progresses!
Have purchased a 4GB Kingston Memory stick and the server seems happy with it. I did this after some purchasers indicated that the HP supplied 4GB stick (at £62) didn't actually work! I know one of you said I don't need the extra memory BUT I don't like empty slots and for £26 I couldn't resist it !
Anyway looking at my "Windows Experience Index" shows (out of 7.9):
Processor - 6.5
Memory (RAM) - 7.5 (up from 6.9 with 4GB)
Primary Hard Disk - 7.3
So far so good but (as might be expected with no graphics card!)
Graphics (Windows Aero) - 1.0
Gaming Graphics - 1.0
I know the pedants amongst you will say "why do you need graphics!" but as a bit of an experimentalist if I can buy a low profile silent PCI-e for £25 or thereabouts I say why not!
Unfortunately what I read about fitting these is that the heat sink is too big and the hole (slot) in the back of the server isn't actually tall enough to fit the bracket with the DVI / HDMI sockets - so I presume some surgery is required
(the graphics card is low profile BUT the bracket isn't!)?
SO - is there a low profile PCI-e graphics card that will just plug in "out of the box" please with no case / heat sink mods?
Thanks you experienced experts out there! Mel
(PS 2nd 6GB WD Red drive arriving tomorrow to set up a mirror raid for "not to be lost" photos (also initial backup copy on HDD in garage in metal cupboard!)
Have purchased a 4GB Kingston Memory stick and the server seems happy with it. I did this after some purchasers indicated that the HP supplied 4GB stick (at £62) didn't actually work! I know one of you said I don't need the extra memory BUT I don't like empty slots and for £26 I couldn't resist it !
Anyway looking at my "Windows Experience Index" shows (out of 7.9):
Processor - 6.5
Memory (RAM) - 7.5 (up from 6.9 with 4GB)
Primary Hard Disk - 7.3
So far so good but (as might be expected with no graphics card!)
Graphics (Windows Aero) - 1.0
Gaming Graphics - 1.0
I know the pedants amongst you will say "why do you need graphics!" but as a bit of an experimentalist if I can buy a low profile silent PCI-e for £25 or thereabouts I say why not!
Unfortunately what I read about fitting these is that the heat sink is too big and the hole (slot) in the back of the server isn't actually tall enough to fit the bracket with the DVI / HDMI sockets - so I presume some surgery is required
(the graphics card is low profile BUT the bracket isn't!)?
SO - is there a low profile PCI-e graphics card that will just plug in "out of the box" please with no case / heat sink mods?
Thanks you experienced experts out there! Mel
(PS 2nd 6GB WD Red drive arriving tomorrow to set up a mirror raid for "not to be lost" photos (also initial backup copy on HDD in garage in metal cupboard!)
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Sorry but GPU would be complete and utter waste of money...
OK - appropriately chastised! I just don't like having a "1.0" dragging its score down!
I just like adding bits. Will await my 6GB baby - then I can copy my stuff of my old DLINK NAS 2 x 500GB mirrored raid and resurrect those drives for wife's new Win 7 PC (on old XP PC at present).
I just like adding bits. Will await my 6GB baby - then I can copy my stuff of my old DLINK NAS 2 x 500GB mirrored raid and resurrect those drives for wife's new Win 7 PC (on old XP PC at present).
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But then you look at what the score is for and you realise it's irrelevant to begin with... let alone its relevance to your use of the computer 
ebay ilo licences - I've bought 6 of them so far and all 6 work fine. Are any on best offer? Just offer £20 inc postage. Keep trying til you get one 
RAID - I use 10. Yes it's backed up, but the hassle of restoring from backup when a large drive throws a URE in the middle of a rebuild is enough for me to never use RAID 5 for large drives again. Plus you get performance bonuses,
RAID - I use 10. Yes it's backed up, but the hassle of restoring from backup when a large drive throws a URE in the middle of a rebuild is enough for me to never use RAID 5 for large drives again. Plus you get performance bonuses,
Hi guys.
Ive just put ESXII on my N54L.
I currently have 3 drives all NTFS (+ssd which im using as a data store).
End goal is I want a windows VM with all the drives accessible and at least 1 if not 2 linux VMs.
Current plan is to backup drives and format them to ext4 and then mount them as RDM to a linux distro and then share them via smb and nfs to my windows VM + rest of the network.
Is this the best way? Which linux distro should I use for just sharing (I have 6gb ram total so can't really use freenas I dont think?)
Any help in how I can achieve this is appreciated.
Ive just put ESXII on my N54L.
I currently have 3 drives all NTFS (+ssd which im using as a data store).
End goal is I want a windows VM with all the drives accessible and at least 1 if not 2 linux VMs.
Current plan is to backup drives and format them to ext4 and then mount them as RDM to a linux distro and then share them via smb and nfs to my windows VM + rest of the network.
Is this the best way? Which linux distro should I use for just sharing (I have 6gb ram total so can't really use freenas I dont think?)
Any help in how I can achieve this is appreciated.
Me again - in the Saga of Proliant the Server (not Noggin the Nog for those who remember!)
At present I have a 128GB SSD / win 7 OS Drive
6TB WD Red as Raid 0 awaiting partner (from Yodel) to set up as 6GB mirror raid
A 1TB WD Caviar Black several years old set up as Raid 0
The latter is now giving grief! having been in the Proliant Gen 8 Microserver for a few days with no problems - last night whilst on its continuing soak test I found the server with the base LED flashing red on and off (instead of stable blue). On re-boot it told me it had turned this drive off to avoid data errors. Hmm. Took it out / put it back in - rebooted. All seemed OK - but several hours later - same thing - red LED flashing.
Took out drive, put in USB Startech caddy attached to the server - came up in windows OK showing all files!
Ran chkdsk and it found some corrupt attribution error and disk space errors but I am not sure if these would cause the HDD to fail in the Proliant server? Any views
At present I have a 128GB SSD / win 7 OS Drive
6TB WD Red as Raid 0 awaiting partner (from Yodel) to set up as 6GB mirror raid
A 1TB WD Caviar Black several years old set up as Raid 0
The latter is now giving grief! having been in the Proliant Gen 8 Microserver for a few days with no problems - last night whilst on its continuing soak test I found the server with the base LED flashing red on and off (instead of stable blue). On re-boot it told me it had turned this drive off to avoid data errors. Hmm. Took it out / put it back in - rebooted. All seemed OK - but several hours later - same thing - red LED flashing.
Took out drive, put in USB Startech caddy attached to the server - came up in windows OK showing all files!
Ran chkdsk and it found some corrupt attribution error and disk space errors but I am not sure if these would cause the HDD to fail in the Proliant server? Any views
How so? A gfx card will give him a hdmi out as well as hardware decoding, allowing him to use the gen8 as a htpc. I've been doing that with my N40L and it certainly hasn't been an 'utter waste of money'
Mel, a lot of the low profile cards come with a few different end plates that are simple to change, although yes you need to be careful the heat sink will fit!
I'd also be interested in gfx card recommendations for the gen8 as I'm thinking of upgrading my N40L.
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It may have had errors for a while, only you didn't notice until it was put into a system that likes to shout at you when there are any errors
I have the same on one of my old 1TB drives... it works absolutely fine but has been shouting at me for 2 years saying it's going to die, backup and replace.
Just make sure you have the files backed up... use it as a backup-only drive.
I have the same on one of my old 1TB drives... it works absolutely fine but has been shouting at me for 2 years saying it's going to die, backup and replace.
Just make sure you have the files backed up... use it as a backup-only drive.
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But he's not planning to use it as an HTPC or encoding device... that's why.
It's a headless fileserver = GPU would be a waste.
Run diagnostic sofftware from the drive manufacturer, with it directly connected, not USB and not RAID controller.
You'll probably find it's failing which is why the controller spat it out. Had the same thing with a WD green - P210 failed it, windows was fine with it, data lifeguard diagnostics said it was full of errors.
Will do - thanks. Need to find necessary connectors on my "standard" PC
Running Lifeguard Diagnostics via USB - WD says OK with that.
- Quick test - 5 mins - OK
- Full test - 8 hrs - on-going!
Mel
Well lifeguard ran for 9 hours via USB and gave the 1TB drive a clean bill of health. Also the drive was connected to the server which seemed happy with it connected via USB so perhaps the errors chkdsk found were the ones causing it to be rejected.
Will leave sever with just 2x6TB raid connected for a few days and then add this 1TB drive back in as Raid 0 to test that again.
Mel