The EU Migrant Crisis

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Glaucus said:
It what public backlash does to politicians, democracy after all is a popularity contest. Even though what she planned was the best for Germany itself as well as EU as a whole.
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100,000s of hard line ultra conservative Islamic nutters would not be good for Germany or anybody.
 
Shampoo said:
In what way? All people seem to be saying in response to the obvious proven concerns is "racist" & "bigot" or the classic pretending that the argument is below them. Can one of you actually address what benefit we will actually receive as a country by importing leeching fighting age men who share neither the language or the culture and who adhere to a hard-line belief system above all else that tells them we are all scum and viable targets.

CAN SOMEBODY ACTUALLY POINT OUT THE BENEFITS?

I've asked a few times yet been met with deafening silence. Tell me how it's good for British society/Europe to bring in a mass of fighting age Muslim men who clearly have zero interest in European culture and liberalism. Malmo serves as a current existing example of this folly. Explain without insult how a bunch of extra Malmo's over the country helps us in any way shape or form, PLEASE!

Do you think these Iraqi/Syrian/Pakistani (or whoever given that the ID papers are floating in the Med) men are the educated workforce of the future paying our pensions? LOL You think you'll be having a few swift half's down the local with Ahmed talking about the football while your wives and children mingle? Have a word. They'll be holed up in no-go non-English speaking ghettos draining from the taxpayer purse, dressed like ninjas and the terror alert will probably stay at critical forever. Rapes on young girls will also skyrocket as will overall community discord and tension.

I wonder if those who spout the "let them all in" nonsense have actually been to the run down areas that they've completely colonised. Have you seen these places? Have you had groups of men all standing about during the day just trying to intimidate you because you don't belong there while women in full veil wander about in packs. That isn't what Britain is about yet we have cheerleaders encouraging more of the same. Why would you do that?

I live next to a massive Church and a Gurdwara and have no trouble wandering about the place at all. Good people and no trouble. Further up the road at the Mosque and it's a different story where they stare at you like hawks and even follow you partly up the road as though to usher you out. I see this every week as I lease property beyond the area and have to regularly traverse it. Why should I be intimidated and made to feel unwelcome in my own country by people who refuse to adapt to the ways and norms of us who pay for their existence?

Christian, Jews, Hindu, Sikh, Rasta etc all get along fine with what Britain has to offer but Islam refuses. Why are they here? Middle East is massive. They have their pick of countries with the same ideology they can go live if they find Britain so repugnant.
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Your country? It is as much there's as is it yours. Same for the many you probably see regularly on your commute most are probably born here.

With delightful people like you it's a mystery why integration is not going great. If your attitude is like this on a forum when you go post these people you must gawp at them like there aliens no wonder they eyeball you.

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B&W said:
Your country? It is as much there's as is it yours. Same for the many you probably see regularly on your commute most are probably born here.

With delightful people like you it's a mystery why integration is not going great. If your attitude is like this on a forum when you go post these people you must gawp at them like there aliens no wonder they eyeball you.

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He makes a valid point, and the fact you have to resort to insults shows you have nothing of substance to add to the discussion.
 
B&W said:
Your country? It is as much there's as is it yours. Same for the many you probably see regularly on your commute most are probably born here.
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Rubbish. This country is mine far more than it is the migrants. You would have to be beyond psychological help to think otherwise. In fact, even saying it offends me.

In what way does this country belong to the migrants?
 
B&W said:
Your country? It is as much there's as is it yours. Same for the many you probably see regularly on your commute most are probably born here.

With delightful people like you it's a mystery why integration is not going great. If your attitude is like this on a forum when you go post these people you must gawp at them like there aliens no wonder they eyeball you.

** Personal attack **
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So still no answer to the question then, just personal insult. Of course, it's all our fault.
 
kindai said:
He makes a valid point, and the fact you have to resort to insults shows you have nothing of substance to add to the discussion.
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Valid point? He's saying most Muslims here don't offer nothing to this country and casting all as rapists and haters of this country.

If you think that is a valid point then your as blind as him. When people insult me I will return it. He's the one with the hateful attitude making it a us and them situation.

People like him exist among Muslims too, and I'd say the same to them if they came out with crap about others
 
robfosters said:
Rubbish. This country is mine far more than it is the migrants. You would have to be beyond psychological help to think otherwise. In fact, even saying it offends me.

In what way does this country belong to the migrants?
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If you read my post properly without jumping to conclusions you'd see I was talking about British citizens but no don't let facts get in the way of your pre conceived ideas about people.
 
Insulted again. And on top of that he makes the spurious suggestion that the country we work in and pay our taxes to sustain is somehow belonging to fresh of the boat Syrians?

Why are you so willing to hand our country over? It doesn't belong to them. Does Syria belong to Britain? Maybe you can try and address some points without attacking me. You don't seem capable of that even though I've given you many opportunities
 
B&W said:
If you read my post properly without jumping to conclusions you'd see I was talking about British citizens but no don't let facts get in the way of your pre conceived ideas about people.
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I think in a way you are more bigoted than the people you are accusing.
 
Only one person here jumping to insults and not countering points being made. Why is that? Maybe because there's a great deal of truth to it. I walk down a street minding my own and get followed by a mob of men walking slowly behind me with their robes on.

I can see how that is my problem??? What?

B&W's response is to call me a bigot for some strange reason.

And I know for a fact they weren't born here. They were brought over and housed in that specific area following the Iraq war. 12 years and not remotely integrated. It's not their country as they have clearly rejected what it stands for. Haven't rejected the benefits though have they. Parasites is what they are and British is what I am. I welcome anyone who wants to adhere, work, integrate and crack on so you need to put your labels away as they don't fit and it's getting old. If you're a Muslim then perhaps you can expand on why so many of your fellow men don't want to integrate and the woman walk about with just their eyes visible. An explanation without insults would be grand. You want to live here then I expect you to be grateful and to do your best to fit in. Isolate yourself and act hostile then don't expect anyone to care about or welcome you.
 
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Shampoo said:
Insulted again. And on top of that he makes the spurious suggestion that the country we work in and pay our taxes to sustain is somehow belonging to fresh of the boat Syrians?

Why are you so willing to hand our country over? It doesn't belong to them. Does Syria belong to Britain? Maybe you can try and address some points without attacking me. You don't seem capable of that even though I've given you many opportunities
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No I meant British citizens, do take out your reading glasses next time.

You expect me to believe people from a mosque chased you out of a street for no reason?

You with your endless renting and De humanizing of Muslims.
 
robfosters said:
Just answer his question for god sakes!

How is accepting loads of migrants beneficial to our country?
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How about talking about my initial post, this man is tarring all Muslims in the UK as immigrants. Most Muslims I know were born here. On top of that he's portraying all to be the same..
 
How about I don't accept that most Muslims are not integrating, your talking about recent Iraqi refugees hardly what your average Muslims ethnicity is in the UK.

A spurious case indeed.
 
You're deflecting again because it's convenient and I dare say I'm not the only guy who got intimidated out of a Muslim-only street. I wasn't chased. Perhaps you need to crack your own reading glasses out.

Recent? 12 years isn't recent. Do you actually live in a genuinely multi-cultural area? I mean seriously? It's like the pro-migration voices live outside of reality.
 
B&W said:
How about talking about my initial post, this man is tarring all Muslims in the UK as immigrants. Most Muslims I know were born here. On top of that he's portraying all to be the same..
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No Shampoo appears to be focusing mainly on the migrants. You can't continue to incessantly dilute our culture and Christianity in this country. Eventually, it will be lost. Areas already are lost.

There needs to be a limit.
 
Shampoo said:
Insulted again. And on top of that he makes the spurious suggestion that the country we work in and pay our taxes to sustain is somehow belonging to fresh of the boat Syrians?

Why are you so willing to hand our country over? It doesn't belong to them. Does Syria belong to Britain? Maybe you can try and address some points without attacking me. You don't seem capable of that even though I've given you many opportunities
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B&W is one of the Muslim brethren that's why :p
 
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