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How popular are the 390X and 390P ?
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Slow news week.
Which reminds me, where's the dual 980ti?
I was wondering how popular the 390X and 390P are.
If you own either of these cards please post what your experience has been of the 3XX series.
I still have my Hawaii cards but they are the old 290Xs.
390P ? Have I missed something?
I've had a 390X since release date. Really happy with it, solid card and a huge upgrade from my 7950.
You'll of course know before you posted this that this thread won't be that popular, as this is a mid range card, and it's also the "wrong" choice on these forums, as we have many NVIDIA worshippers who fanatically recommend a 970 over a 390, even when the 390 has been proven by many reviewers, hardware enthusiasts on youtube etc, to be the better buy.
Also as it's a mid range card, owners are less likely to be posting about it to "show it off" as they know they'll be welcoming a mocking barrage from the green team, about how power hungry they are, how useless the 8GB vram is, that it's a refresh and not worthy of a new card etc, the usual tripe.
Unfortunately we don't have access to number of 390's or 390x's sold, though they do seem to be very popular review wise on the largest retailers.
Also worth pointing out that the 390/390x price has been quite steady since release - if they weren't selling or were selling poorly, then you'd expect them to have been reduced in cost quite massively by now, expect they are not.
Early DX12 performance has also shown the 390/390X to be quite close to the Fury/980ti, which is rather interesting.
You'll of course know before you posted this that this thread won't be that popular, as this is a mid range card, and it's also the "wrong" choice on these forums, as we have many NVIDIA worshippers who fanatically recommend a 970 over a 390, even when the 390 has been proven by many reviewers, hardware enthusiasts on youtube etc, to be the better buy.
Also as it's a mid range card, owners are less likely to be posting about it to "show it off" as they know they'll be welcoming a mocking barrage from the green team, about how power hungry they are, how useless the 8GB vram is, that it's a refresh and not worthy of a new card etc, the usual tripe.
Unfortunately we don't have access to number of 390's or 390x's sold, though they do seem to be very popular review wise on the largest retailers.
Also worth pointing out that the 390/390x price has been quite steady since release - if they weren't selling or were selling poorly, then you'd expect them to have been reduced in cost quite massively by now, expect they are not.
Early DX12 performance has also shown the 390/390X to be quite close to the Fury/980ti, which is rather interesting.
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There's an MSI gaming 390X in the post for me and I'm looking forward to having a play!
I'm thinking of selling the 295x2 and getting another one to run with it, either that or run them in tri-fire together.
I'm Looking at getting a 4k IPS screen with freesync to get the most out of them.
I'm thinking of selling the 295x2 and getting another one to run with it, either that or run them in tri-fire together.
I'm Looking at getting a 4k IPS screen with freesync to get the most out of them.
They were good cards 2 years ago in the form of the 290's but they are showing their age if you look beyond the fps, they do an ok job but the 300 series needed the die shrink and they would have been amazing.
As a huge upgrade from a 7950, i'd have to disagree and say it's a moderate upgrade. My experience of a 1175/1600 7950 to my friends 290 with the parity 300 series drivers is that yes it's a worthy upgrade, but you could have had the performance 2 years ago. If you skipped the 290's like I did then the price for the 390's and the 390x aren't really good value when you consider that it's 2 year old tech.
Lets look at some benchmarks, to see if a 390X is a 'moderate' upgrade to a 7950, shall we?
Over double the FPS in some games, hence why I feel it's a huge upgarde from my 7950.
I don't really care that it's 2 year old tech, I only care about it's performance relative to the 7950 I replaced.
Also, the 8GB VRAM comes in handy for me, since I frequently have youtube videos, movies, streams etc open on two other monitors, all of which eat up some VRAM, in addition to gaming on a 1440P screen. A 970 or 980 would have run out of VRAM for my uses, hence why I went with a 8GB card.
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2 years ago, the 290X was £400, had half the vram, had slower vram and worse tessellation performance.
I've paid £240 for the 390X which I think is good value for money but I'd certainly hesitate to buy one brand new at current prices.
I'd feel better with 8gb of GDDR5 per card than 4gb of HBM since I'd want to run up to three.
I've paid £240 for the 390X which I think is good value for money but I'd certainly hesitate to buy one brand new at current prices.
I'd feel better with 8gb of GDDR5 per card than 4gb of HBM since I'd want to run up to three.
I think people are comparing their overclocked 7950s to to stock 290x, an thinking thats how much difference there is between a 7950 and a 390x, where as if you took a stock 800mhz 7950 and compared it to a 390x which runs 100 mhz faster than a 290x, then it would completely trash it and probable run more than twice as fast.
If i compared my 1300/1900 7950 to my stock 290x then it obviosly would obscure the numbers a bit as it wouldnt seem like much of an upgrade.
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I am heavily considering getting a 390X this week. I am just looking around for prices and such and any information of any price drops that may happen soon.
I have a 7970 just now clocked at 1050/1500 but the difference between this and a 390X is apparently massive.
I have a 7970 just now clocked at 1050/1500 but the difference between this and a 390X is apparently massive.
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If I compare my watercooled 290Xs to my old Matrix Platinum 7970s it is absolutely no contest. Not only are my Hawaii cards bigger but they are also better clockers too !!!
I bought my MSI 390X (1100Mhz stock) when it was on offer, paid £300 I believe, very happy with the performance at that price.
Lets look at some benchmarks, to see if a 390X is a 'moderate' upgrade to a 7950, shall we?
Over double the FPS in some games, hence why I feel it's a huge upgarde from my 7950.
I don't really care that it's 2 year old tech, I only care about it's performance relative to the 7950 I replaced.
Also, the 8GB VRAM comes in handy for me, since I frequently have youtube videos, movies, streams etc open on two other monitors, all of which eat up some VRAM, in addition to gaming on a 1440P screen. A 970 or 980 would have run out of VRAM for my uses, hence why I went with a 8GB card.
Let's step back and look at some facts the 7950/7970 is 4 year old tech.
4 year old tech vs 2 year old tech or the respun 300 series. Generally an 1100mhz 7950 would equate to the 280x in those guru3d results.
You are quoting 800mhz 7950 results, secondly the r9 290 drivers are older than the 390. Like I said I used a 1175/1600 7950 and I know how it compares to a 290 clocked or stock with the parity 390 wonder drivers, even a 1200 or 1300mhz 7950 will scale another 8 fps over the stock 280x results in the guru3d. I'm not saying the gains aren't there, in some games it's a good jump but most of that gain came from the recent drivers. I'm saying if you've left it to this late to only jump on a 390 then you are kidding yourself it's value for money, because essentially it's not if you look at the timeline of 4 years of progression.
The fact is in over a year you are still paying the same price as the 290's were when they bottomed out for a long time. You are only looking at fps you aren't comparing the whole features of the card to Maxwell.
The 8gb of memory is only viable if you are in cf and there was an r9 290x 8gb anyway. The uvd 4 engine is so outdated that it can't decode 4k video playback, Tonga can with uvd 5.2.
Like I said if all you care about is fps then fine, but don't refuse the facts I bring to the table just because they don't suit your agenda.
As I said in my first post,
They were good cards 2 years ago in the form of the 290's but they are showing their age if you look beyond the fps, they do an ok job but the 300 series needed the die shrink and they would have been amazing.