Facebook may be listening to your conversations and targeting ads to you...

Meh. This is nothing.

I casually said "OK Google" to my GF in conversation, and my locked, screen off, in standby phone on charge the other side of the room went 'beep boop'.

Facebook may or may not be listening to you, but Android certainly is (if you enable the feature). It's quite cool and quite scary at the same time.
 
balky12 said:
So facebook has an army of people, listening to everyone's conversations?

Ok.
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At the end of the day Facebook is still a CIA operation. The fact that the CIA have an army of people listening to everyone's conversations, and the fact they're doing it through one of their main intelligence channels, facebook, are facts which are pretty obvious.
 
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asim18 said:
At the end of the day Facebook is still a CIA operation. The fact that the CIA have an army of people listening to everyone's conversations, and the fact they're doing it through one of their main intelligence channels, facebook, are facts which are pretty obvious.
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Obvious if you're a conspiracy nutter I suppose.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Obvious if you're a conspiracy nutter I suppose.
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Wait a minute.

Are you saying the CIA (the Central Intelligence Agency) is something other than an intelligence agency?

Or are you saying intelligence gathering agencies like the CIA don't gather intelligence from social media?
 
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I love this kind of thing. People at work have been talking in horrified tones about Facebook and various "agencies" listening in on their private conversations. They have images of some spook sitting in a dark office listening to their every word. I say good luck to them. There are times I think my job is dull but if they're sitting around listening to my chit chat with the wife and kids or the nonsense by drunk mates spool out when I'm on a night out then those poor spooks deserves a medal.

Listen away FB/CIA/GCHQ. Knock yourself out. :)
 
OldCoals said:
GCHQ can remotely turn your phone on.

Even when it is off they can access it.
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that would be an interesting trick to turn a phone on that is off.

I wonder how they power the additional circuits to listen in when it's powered down?

They may (I say may) be able to turn on the mic if the phone is on but not making a call, but turning the phone on when it's off would have a very noticeable effect on battery life and require the phone to be able to listen for the signal to turn on.
Far easier to simply modify the suspects phone (or swap it for a pre modified one) that has the extra features than put them into tens of millions of phones, that can be studied by anyone with some knowledge (it's almost certainly far simpler to simply fit a conventional bug to the phone somewhere).
 
tin foil hat for android been using it for years stops it asking for FB messenger too :)

means i get no alerts from facebook too but i don't care what they do I just found the app annoying.
 
asim18 said:
Wait a minute.

Are you saying the CIA (the Central Intelligence Agency) is something other than an intelligence agency?

Or are you saying intelligence gathering agencies like the CIA don't gather intelligence from social media?
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That's a bit of a leap from saying that Facebook is a CIA operation though.
 
Werewolf said:
that would be an interesting trick to turn a phone on that is off.

I wonder how they power the additional circuits to listen in when it's powered down?

They may (I say may) be able to turn on the mic if the phone is on but not making a call, but turning the phone on when it's off would have a very noticeable effect on battery life and require the phone to be able to listen for the signal to turn on.
Far easier to simply modify the suspects phone (or swap it for a pre modified one) that has the extra features than put them into tens of millions of phones, that can be studied by anyone with some knowledge (it's almost certainly far simpler to simply fit a conventional bug to the phone somewhere).
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I don't think it is that much of a "feat" at all. Think back to the Nokia 3210-era handsets where a whole week without charge was the norm. Battery tech has come on since then, electronics have advanced since then. Keeping the GSM part of the phone powered on when the rest of it is "off" would be very easy to do. It wouldn't need to do anything more than register with a cell and sit there waiting. Hardly an intensive operation to achieve that. Apple phones definitely have a baseband firmware separate from the main iOS code which does the interaction with the cellular side of things.

The microphone control might or might not be more difficult - it would depend on the specifics of each phone I suspect.
 
^ Pretty much yeah, it's so simple.

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Burnsy2023 said:
That's a bit of a leap from saying that Facebook is a CIA operation though.
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What isn't a CIA operation though?

The current state of the majority of the world is a result of CIA operations.

PsyOps fuelled by data from the Minerva Initiative have been damningly successful and will only increase as more and more people fuel its databases.

Even the fact that people think Windows 8 is "free" is a CIA operation.

Edward Snowden is NOT an NSA outcast, in fact he's one of the most important CIA operatives in active duty today!
 
I will don my tin foil hat because I'm not 100% comfortable with the T+Cs of the faffbook app - haven't been for years. I did install it when I upgrade my handset, but found its use limited... So I've deleted it again as the pros don't outweigh the potential cons from my PoV.
 
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