Poll: Is the 'gender pay gap' a real thing?

Should a woman with the same skill/experience doing the same role/hours be paid at the same rate as

  • Yes

    Votes: 127 66.1%

  • No

    Votes: 37 19.3%

  • I'm not sure

    Votes: 21 10.9%

  • No, but only because that answer suits me and not because it's right

    Votes: 7 3.6%
  • Total voters
    192
lordzargon said:
I've seen the gender pay gap. I've been paid more for the same level of job than female co-workers, with the same experience.

My wife's been at the other end of it too, with male colleagues getting pay rises offered much sooner than female colleagues - again, without a formal process, without any additional experience.
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Is there any proof of this being purely down to them being a woman though? You often get people in the same job role getting paid different amounts for other reasons like how much they were getting at their previous job and what they asked for when the applied for the role etc.
 
XeNoN89 said:
Is there any proof of this being purely down to them being a woman though? You often get people in the same job role getting paid different amounts depending on how much they were getting paid previously etc
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Indeed. How often do you find a man and a woman with exactly the same skills, experience, etc. doing exactly the same job?

It's unlikely to be often you find two men in that situation also. It isn't limited to woman vs man.
 
I'll hold my hands up to a not sure vote because of a title reading fail as well. I honestly don't see conclusive data to support either side with each only giving their own interpretation of the figures, I prefer to see the numbers and draw my own conclusions. Isolated incidents aren't enough to justify a blanket statement that it happens to everyone.

Everywhere I've worked people are paid on performance/experience/length of service regardless of gender, some places had more females who have the higher experienced therefore better paid jobs, others I've outperformed the women who started with me and climbed pay grades linked to targets faster.

To me without an actual audit on every employee in the country blanket statements are just headline grabbing soundbites on slow news days.
 
Longbow said:
I doubt it's 28%, the thread question and poll question are different, some obviously aren't reading the poll question:
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I had the same, didn't bother reading the poll question because I assumed the question was in the title.
 
Monkeh said:
I'll hold my hands up to a not sure vote because of a title reading fail as well. I honestly don't see conclusive data to support either side with each only giving their own interpretation of the figures, I prefer to see the numbers and draw my own conclusions. Isolated incidents aren't enough to justify a blanket statement that it happens to everyone.

Everywhere I've worked people are paid on performance/experience/length of service regardless of gender, some places had more females who have the higher experienced therefore better paid jobs, others I've outperformed the women who started with me and climbed pay grades linked to targets faster.

To me without an actual audit on every employee in the country blanket statements are just headline grabbing soundbites on slow news days.
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lordzargon said:
I've seen the gender pay gap. I've been paid more for the same level of job than female co-workers, with the same experience.

My wife's been at the other end of it too, with male colleagues getting pay rises offered much sooner than female colleagues - again, without a formal process, without any additional experience.

Across the board this happens, and the evidence is substantial.

I'm amazed there's even a "vote" on this and people are actively denying the facts. This sort of gender pay gap has gone through UK courts and companies/councils have had to pay out in favour of under-paid women.
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What you refer to as facts is actually akin to saying "I'm taller than my wife, therefore all men are taller than women".

Your experience doesn't at all show there's an actual gender pay gap. It simply shows that you've experienced men being paid more, without further context.
 
Even with all those boxes ticked, if it isnt in the same company then its worthless.

If the guy paying has deep pockets, you can expect a fair pay bump over someone in the same role hired by a small family run business.
 
Those choosing the bottom option are effectively saying yes anyway, as they know it's wrong but are saying no in self-interest rather than general principle.

I just wanted to split that number out from the people saying no.
 
depends on if they work at exactly the same rate and what the job is.

I have worked with a few women who really struggled with the work due to the lifting and general lugging around. which slowed me down and just meant I was helping them do their job all the time.

I do think it should be equal pay across the board but I also believe that a lot of the jobs are more suited to certain genders.
 
Voted no

If women get paid less than men , then why aren't all the jobs done by women ?
Basic economic sense would determine that this would save business loads of money

Women do not generally do the high risk work that men would do

Women leave the work place for years to have children , putting them out of the work force for a while.

They are not as forceful as men when negotiating salaries / pay rises

 
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