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weebl said:
If tackling radicalised Islam was a real objective of the west then our major news broadcasters would not give nutters like Anjem Choudary hour long segments. It is very clear that there is a different agenda at play here, one that most of you lot cannot comprehend.
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It's not the job of the media to tackle Islam.
 
weebl said:
If tackling radicalised Islam was a real objective of the west then our major news broadcasters would not give nutters like Anjem Choudary hour long segments. It is very clear that there is a different agenda at play here, one that most of you lot cannot comprehend.
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Care to elaborate on what that agenda is?
 
Nitefly said:
I find it funny, this need to collect and group people.

Ultimately, everyone agrees there are 'the bad guys' and everyone wants them to lose. The bad guys are Muslims, so some people (like example person 'Alex') turn around and say 'Muslims are the bad guys'. Alex then decides he has a strong dislike for Muslims.

But clearly, not all Muslims are bad guys. Alex gets around this problem by stating that these 'self-described Muslims' are not really true Muslims. Because Alex knows that all Muslims must be bad guys.

In other words, Alex is an idiot and the irony that he is vocally discriminating against a group of people, in a way that is not too dissimilar from how the actual bad guys blindly hate the rest of us, sails over his head - weeeeeeeeeeeeee!

It's a shame people get bogged down by this nonsense rather than tackling the issue that really matters - finding, stopping and beating the bad guys. That is not to say that characteristics of terrorists, such as their faith, are merely coincidental. The fact is that the biggest terrorist threat we face today comes from a Muslim group. Bad guys they remain, nevertheless, and that is what truly matters.
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What are your thoughts on offender profiling? Do you think that when creating a profile of a terrorist, that their religious beliefs should be excluded from their profile? This is what is being discussed, that currently Europe is being attacked by Muslim extremists, like how in WW2 we fought the Germans.
 
D1craig said:
ok lets be more specific. france has just been attacked by some muslims (extremists ofcourse). everyone muslim now fears the backlash from the rest of western society. would it really hurt them (some muslim leader of society if "them" is too something or other for you) to come out and condemn these acts?
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Would it hurt? No. Should they feel obliged to? No. Should "Western" people assume that Muslims feel indifferent or even in favour of these attacks if they do not? Also no.
 
Nitefly said:
But clearly, not all Muslims are bad guys.
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True, but it is still reasonable to dislike Islam for what it is, which is generally seen to be a homophobic, misogynistic, oppressive, hate filled, degenerate cult which expects absolute submission from believers and infidels alike.

That's not to say some people can't cherry pick what it says and decide just to follow the nice bits,
but why tolerate the rapid expansion of something so insidious, that you know stands opposed to the values of every decent Western culture.
 
anyway im done, this thread will make you angry.

i dont want every muslim to come out and apologise to me i want some muslim leaders to come out and try to get their opinions heard. they have sway they could get on any TV channel to show their regret at this situation.

i dont think all muslims are bad. religion doesnt matter to me.

i just want some of the people in the higher places, the people that would be listened to, the people that matter to come out and say something so the other people in the lower places feel more comfortable about saying it.

/thread closed for me. i hope i am not attracted to it again.
 
danielanthony said:
What are your thoughts on offender profiling? Do you think that when creating a profile of a terrorist, that their religious beliefs should be excluded from their profile? This is what is being discussed, that currently Europe is being attacked by Muslim extremists, like how in WW2 we fought the Germans.
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I did not say the characteristic of their faith is merely coincidental.

I have absolutely no problem with profiling as you suggest, providing it's sensibly applied.
 
Attacker with Syrian passport was refugee who passed through Greek island

According to a reporter who works for the New York Times and Greek newspaper Enikos, the Greek Public Order Minister Dimitris Toskas, the attacker at the Stade de France who was found with a Syrian passport passed through the Greek island of Leros.

This happened in early October, under EU rules which mean migrants passing through must identify themselves.
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I wonder how many are currently in Germany and Sweden, waiting for an opportunity to attack.
 
If it's true that at least one of these animals was amongst the horde that she urged to invade Europe then Merkel has no option, the deluded old hag has to step down.
 
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