Job offer what should I do?

stay where you are - the extra job prospects in your current job might make the extra 6k look like nothing in a few years. but yeah, talk to your current manager and be honest with him - don't give him an ultimatum.
as other people have said having a boring job isn't worth it.
 
kaptainmarc said:
That's my worry I do not want to come across as "give me more or I will leave" I feel under paid for what I do there's not many people in my field. I am currently on 24k.
One company offered 27k+full company vehicle (too much travelling for me at the time)
Now this company is offering 30k so the extra 6k is a huge bump for me and with having just purchased a house would make life very comfortable for myself but I worry about being miserable in a job

My boss is fairly new but a nice guy, I just don't want to force my own hand
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I wouldn't worry about 'holding a gun to his head' managers have to deal with salary negotiations quite regularly - he shouldn't take it personally unless he's a complete muppet. Obviously you approach it sensibly, mention that you feel you're undervalued and have been offered X and Y but you'd be keen to stay on if they could work something out for you - given that you like the current role this presumably doesn't mean he has to match the offer but could come to some sort of deal with you perhaps a rise and then a further one after hitting some targets or a performance related bonus of some form... Just be prepared to actually hand in your notice if they are happy to ignore your concerns and carry on underpaying you. How long have you got to decide whether to accept the offer?
 
the other thing is that your future salary is often based on your current salary - if you move to the new role then leave within say two years then your next salary will likely be much higher than if you'd stayed at your current place. If your current place doesn't bump your pay with a counter offer and the new place is miserable then just leave after a year or so and get another bump in compensation.

Too many people stay at the same firm sue to some misplaced sense of loyalty - yes they might be nice but if they're screwing you financially then just get out of there.
 
It sounds to be like you're looking for reasons to go as opposed to stay. I think if you've got potential for progression and you're happy where you are then you have no real need to leave.

dowie is correct that to move up in your career, you have to be prepared to move company. The next job 'may' bore you, but you surely could aim to move on again if that was so?

Perhaps delicately mention it to your line manager that you've been head hunted and you're looking for progression. You may get the best of both worlds.
 
this new job wouldn't be a step up in a career i would say maybe a backwards/sideways step which is why they are offering me the better wage.

Its not the industry where you can flit around a lot in my specific role so if i did move I could easily end up stuck there for 4-5 years before a new opportunity arises.

I am due another visit to see the place in a working environment rather than just a wonder round. I will ask my boss for a quick 5 minute chat tomorrow. I just don't want to shoot myself in the foot. I have been told I will get the official you got the job tomorrow from the new company.

something worth mentioning my colleague also got headhunted a year ago, he is my senior and he got an 11k pay increase to keep him. I have the same background as we worked at the same place previously, he just has a an extra 8 years experience in the industry but his wage is 40+
 
kaptainmarc said:
this new job wouldn't be a step up in a career i would say maybe a backwards/sideways step which is why they are offering me the better wage.

Its not the industry where you can flit around a lot in my specific role so if i did move I could easily end up stuck there for 4-5 years before a new opportunity arises.

I am due another visit to see the place in a working environment rather than just a wonder round. I will ask my boss for a quick 5 minute chat tomorrow. I just don't want to shoot myself in the foot. I have been told I will get the official you got the job tomorrow from the new company.

something worth mentioning my colleague also got headhunted a year ago, he is my senior and he got an 11k pay increase to keep him. I have the same background as we worked at the same place previously, he just has a an extra 8 years experience in the industry but his wage is 40+
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Sounds like you should play them off against each other and stick in your current role
 
I'd say stay in your current role then, but speak to the seniors and see if anything can be done in terms of retainment.
 
Afraid the money wins every time in this scenario for me - if you're closer to home then as per above the rise is bigger than the headline numbers suggest. The new role may be sideways but there is no reason you won't get another opportunity 2 years down the line (perhaps in your current organisation) or like you hope the current employer won't offer an incentive to stay.

I'm assuming it's in the order of a 20% rise before considering the reduction in travel time/cost?

Just don't do it while secretly relying on the current employer making an offer to keep you and be sure not to burn any bridges
 
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Increased wages + shorter commute would get my vote, pretty much every time. Especially if said commute was significantly shorter, and said wages were proportionality higher.

You might find the role not that boring either. I've always found you can make boring roles more interesting anyway, you just need to find out how.

And if you find you really can't hack it, then look to move on. We live in a throw away world nowadays anyway, the old "it'll look bad on your CV" argument doesn't hold up anywhere near as much as it used to.

It's interesting to understand why you think it would be boring anyway? Are the company that short-sighted to pay you extra money to do less, or is that not the situation here?
 
Gornall said:
If you do approach your manager, be very cautious of coming across as putting the gun to his head.

What you've said in your post, would be acceptable to me to hear as a manager, if presented correctly. You're clearly in a dilemma, and I'd expect the full 6k wouldn't be needed to affirm your commitment. Depending on your relationship with your manager, speaking is usually the best way to go about it.

Depending what you're on currently, 6k could be a big jump (and sounds like it is) and there is a good chance your manager would see it as such.

Whatever you do though...be prepared to follow through.
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wingman said:
Increased wages + shorter commute would get my vote, pretty much every time. Especially if said commute was significantly shorter, and said wages were proportionality higher.

You might find the role not that boring either. I've always found you can make boring roles more interesting anyway, you just need to find out how.

And if you find you really can't hack it, then look to move on. We live in a throw away world nowadays anyway, the old "it'll look bad on your CV" argument doesn't hold up anywhere near as much as it used to.

It's interesting to understand why you think it would be boring anyway? Are the company that short-sighted to pay you extra money to do less, or is that not the situation here?
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Its the technical side of concrete which can be extremely daunting if you don't know it. They are saying they want x y and z. The place I work for now can complete x & y in a matter of weeks with ease, and Z is just general sorting out and sorting procedures. same place everyday in what is effectively a shed with insulation. But it could also be something that I can really grab a hold of and make it my own and make an already growing company flourish and save them a lot of money and speed everything up

where as now I work in one of the biggest construction solution industries in the UK developing grouts/admixtures/sealants/resins. going to different countries travelling around the uk and seeing some pretty impressive structures/projects.
 
Your call mate, there's no right or wrong answer. I've walked away from comfortable jobs for more money and an easier life and regretted it immediately, but after a few months I found myself comfortable in the new place again. You get to know the people, find your place and hopefully enjoy it.
 
kaptainmarc said:
Bit of a strange one.

I have been headhunted by another company for a new position which could be interesting but has a bigger chance of boring me to absolute tears its a 6k payrise which would make a big difference to me and is closer to home ~20mins

but on the other hand I am quite happy with my current job, I get on with my colleagues really well but the commute is anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour (with car sharing to keep fuel down)

weighing everything up i think my current role is better for career progression and having a more diverse role which is important being 26 it makes my CV pretty solid. but the money is really trying to sway me as the difference it would make would be huge.

What would you do?
maybe talk to my manager about a payrise? whats the best way to go about it? I know I am under payed this is the second job I have been offered with more money now

TL;DR offered job more money, want to stay at same place but get more money what to do?
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6k is only slightly over 100 quid a week extra before tax. So depends on what percentage of your salary that would be.
 
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What is the likely hood of payrise in your current role? Have you had one before? Are they regular? Are they much? You say there is career progresion in your current role, so does that seem near? If so, will it come with the extra money you want?

I'd factor them in.. But then also discuss with your manager that you've been offered another position which you didn't apply for, but your current financial situation it would make a massive impact in your life but you really enjoy working where you are and see yourself as progressing far within the company etc etc and see where that goes. Depending on how 'close' you are with your manager, it may be wise getting a contract from the other company first. - That may prove difficult if your notice is 4 weeks and they want you to start after 4 weeks, your manager won't have time to act before you'd need to put in your notice.
 
I think it's important to make it clear they approached you and you've done nothing proactively to encourage them, but it's an offer you cannot dismiss completely but you are happy where you are. The better work/life balance along with the extra money would make things far better for you but you want to see if they could do anything. The issue is, of course, if you basically say 'I want to stay here' then they may actually test you and say 'sorry we can't do any better' or offer you £1k extra to see if you're fibbing to get a rise or will actually go through with it. If you don't actually do it then you'll be low-balled for the rest of the time at your current place. Be prepared to actually go through with it!
 
Speak to your potential new employer and tell them you would like more job diversity in the contract?
 
I'm in a similar situation, I've been offered an 18K pay increase but would lose my local government pension, flexible working and probably an extra hour of travelling per day...
 
Brozart said:
I'm in a similar situation, I've been offered an 18K pay increase but would lose my local government pension, flexible working and probably an extra hour of travelling per day...
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18k, wow, that is a life changing difference.

I went from the Council to my current job and got a pay rise that was half what you've been offered and that was massive for me. You don't have miss the freedom and perks of local government mind!
 
An £18k increase is a huge difference. I'd be on that like a fat kid on cake. An extra hour a day total isn't a lot if it's not all sitting in bumper to bumper traffic. You could easily get something wafty for the journey (Saab and Volvo always have great seats) and could do an exotic holiday or really ramp up the mortgage payments. Losing the pension is a smaller issue as you could easily match the return with an extra £1.5k in the bank a month.
 
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