Apple TV 4

fez · 19 Nov 2015 at 15:35

Sounds like its probably worth getting one of these but I'm hoping that they have them a little cheaper on black friday

Adsta · 20 Nov 2015 at 13:26

Karl said:
A friend who has been through the same motions as me has bought a new Apple TV and bought the Plex app for it, and reports zero issues streaming ultra-high res content over wi-fi of all things! I'm wondering if the new Apple TV has some sort of reasoning behind why this might be the case. If it does, I'm considering finding another use for the raspberry pi and getting an Apple TV instead.

Any thoughts?

K

I thought that the apple TV cannot do UHD (I assume by that you mean 4K) since it only as an HDMI output :confused:

I'm still considering buying it though. The Amazon Fire does seem pretty darn good especially price considering. But the apple TV has all that good apple eco system stuff which I do enjoy. I'm still undecided really.

Rooky007 · 20 Nov 2015 at 14:02

Am torn between this and Amazon Fire Tv

Sparx · 21 Nov 2015 at 13:08

Adsta said:
I thought that the apple TV cannot do UHD (I assume by that you mean 4K) since it only as an HDMI output

What output do you think 4K works over, if not HDMI?

Dependant on the port spec, 4K is not a problem at all over HDMI.

HDMI 1.4 = capable of outputting 4K @ 24 fps
HDMI 2.0 = capable of outputting 4K @ 50-60 fps

DVD Cinema · 21 Nov 2015 at 22:30

But the ATV 4 HDMI max display settings are only 1080 @ 50/60P (like ATV 3) aren't they?

Or has the ATV 4 got a 4K 24Hz setting?

Ghosteh · 21 Nov 2015 at 23:15

DVD Cinema said:
But the ATV 4 HDMI max display settings are only 1080 @ 50/60P (like ATV 3) aren't they?

Or has the ATV 4 got a 4K 24Hz setting?

It hasn't got that as a setting, but can't see why it couldn't be added in a future update.

DVD Cinema · 22 Nov 2015 at 13:19

Ghosteh said:
It hasn't got that as a setting, but can't see why it couldn't be added in a future update.

Thanks for that. You are the first person I have seen that has said that for ATV4.

Do you know whether the Roku 4 has a 24Hz setting for 1080P?

Ghosteh · 22 Nov 2015 at 14:20

DVD Cinema said:
Thanks for that. You are the first person I have seen that has said that for ATV4.

Do you know whether the Roku 4 has a 24Hz setting for 1080P?

Don't quote me on that though, even though you already have

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I Just mean the SOC is capable of doing 4k decoding from what I have read so far, but with it only having HDMI it won't do past 24Hz even if it is added.

Knowing Apple though, I'd probably just expect it on the ATV 4s lol.

As for the Roku, I have no idea.

Karl · 23 Nov 2015 at 09:40

Adsta said:
I thought that the apple TV cannot do UHD (I assume by that you mean 4K) since it only as an HDMI output

I'm still considering buying it though. The Amazon Fire does seem pretty darn good especially price considering. But the apple TV has all that good apple eco system stuff which I do enjoy. I'm still undecided really.

It's not so much the content being displayed on the screen, more the size of content being transferred from Plex server to the device, and whether it transcodes the information and so forth. My Chromecast really struggled with it to the point where it was useless for files over 1GB, and my Raspberry Pi struggled with stuff over 2 or 3GB.

Valo · 28 Nov 2015 at 11:18

It looks like Amazon is getting it's act together with Prime Video for tvOS in development. Considering they have a universal app for Prime Video on the iPhone/iPad it was a pretty empty threat not to develop for tvOS and ultimately just hurts their own business.

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/28/apple-tv-amazon-prime-video-tvos-app/

Valo · 8 Dec 2015 at 17:57

tvOS 9.1 update has now been released

-Mike- · 13 Dec 2015 at 23:09

Am I wrong to want one of these? Really fancy it for now tv and a bit of light gaming!

LiE · 14 Dec 2015 at 01:47

iPlayer is now on the AppStore

Valo · 14 Dec 2015 at 12:38

LiE said:
iPlayer is now on the AppStore

Excellent! Thanks for the heads up

Great to see the BBC deliver. Now just ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 to go.

KIA · 14 Dec 2015 at 14:34

I hope it puts a bit of pressure on the slow coaches.

Avalon · 14 Dec 2015 at 19:19

I've offloaded two of my 3 atv's, the FireTV 4k runs Plex, Kodi and a lot more without the need to mess about. Despite having bought into apple's ecosystem for laptop/desktop/mobile/tablet the atv just doesn't appeal to me now.

Raymond Lin · 20 Dec 2015 at 16:37

Avalon said:
I've offloaded two of my 3 atv's, the FireTV 4k runs Plex, Kodi and a lot more without the need to mess about. Despite having bought into apple's ecosystem for laptop/desktop/mobile/tablet the atv just doesn't appeal to me now.

I came in to ask what is the best place/price to get a ATV3 to replace my Roku 3, now i am not so sure now. Fire TV4k is half the price.

Avalon · 20 Dec 2015 at 17:28

Raymond Lin said:
I came in to ask what is the best place/price to get a ATV3 to replace my Roku 3, now i am not so sure now. Fire TV4k is half the price.

All I can say is for me a FireTV makes a lot more sense. It's back down to £65 with potentially another £10 off a £50 spend and cash back from a well known department store who give 2 years warranty. It runs Kodi amazingly well, has various catch up services and has Plex etc.

Raymond Lin · 20 Dec 2015 at 20:28

Avalon said:
All I can say is for me a FireTV makes a lot more sense. It's back down to £65 with potentially another £10 off a £50 spend and cash back from a well known department store who give 2 years warranty. It runs Kodi amazingly well, has various catch up services and has Plex etc.

Bah, i would get it but i just looked and it has not YouTube.

I might as well stick with my XB1 as that has everything, even Plex now.

tom_nieto · 23 Dec 2015 at 09:28

I presume this will be worth upgrading to as we should see all the iPhone and iPad apps transfer over theoretically - Netflix, iplayer (done!), perhaps even Amazon prime video. I know Apple will be stubborn about the other subscription services but they are available on their other devices. Streaming services are so shoddy on Sky and Virgin boxes that this should be worth the money alone. I think I'm going to junk sky movies in favour of Netflix.