What to do in a Paris style terrorist attack - PIA

[chief barker]

Learn to bunnyhop. This will make you an irritatingly difficult target to hit with the added bonus of making the terrorist so mad that he slams his gun on the floor and rage quits at which point you can grab that weapon, nail him with it and then tea bag him for the cameras "lolol noob".

Don't forget to Dolphin dive as well.

 

[Orionaut]

Has nobody suggested it might be a better idea to attack, in this scenario?

OK, you may fail. The man behind you may fail, but these people aren't here to take hostages. They're not here to have tense stand-offs and fluffy negotiations, they're here to kill as many people as possible, ideally with gunfire, followed by explosives.

By running, you're just giving them more targets?

Depends on the circumstances.

If you are on board a hijacked aircraft say, you life is already forfiet, so it might well be worth having a go.

On the ground, confronted by a paris style rampage I would likley run and hide, However I might well, if at all possible, try to double back behind the attackers.

(Only the most determined terrorists are going to bother doubling back to check that they got everybody! )

 

[SciNeT]

Does anyone absolutely ****ing hate this constant threat of terrorism bought upon us by the Governments? Every ****ing time I see more than one fire engine blaring down my road I worry that some psycho has finally decided to take it out on Westfields or something. And I'm the type of guy who worries about the smallest things being in order so it's seriously messing with my head.

It's not the governments that have brought terror upon us, it's their own book that radicalised them. Might have misunderstood your point.

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

Does anyone absolutely ****ing hate this constant threat of terrorism bought upon us by the Governments? Every ****ing time I see more than one fire engine blaring down my road I worry that some psycho has finally decided to take it out on Westfields or something. And I'm the type of guy who worries about the smallest things being in order so it's seriously messing with my head.

Seriously dude get a grip!!
You have roughly a 1 in 15.8 million chance of being killed by terrorism in the U.K!!
I suggest if you are going to stress yourself out at least engage your brain and focus on stuff that is 38,000 times more likely to kill you (ie road accidents, smoking, alcohol, obesity ..etc ..etc)

 

[Thekwango]

On the contrary. If everyone did drugs, weed at least, there'd be absolutely no conflict in the world.

Why do you think the cinema's peace promoting video was replaced by adverts for a substance which causes more conflict, ignorance, dumbness, etc?

Why do you think Michael Jackson was involuntarily slaughtered on the eve of his performances? Was it because his performances would light too much peace in the darkness of all the evil **** artists spew today?

orly??

i might suggest that you stop smoking the weed yourself. it's making you paranoid!

 

[NexusK]

I'd probably poo through my own letterbox.

 

[adolf hamster]

The assailant had an AK47. Just because they're usually reliable weapons, doesn't mean they won't fail on the day. Or the man holding it panics, as he expects everyone to run away screaming, rather than charging at him?

It won't work every time, but it worked for these guys.

Yep, the ak is known for being very reliably mostly because it's design has looser tolerances making it more resistant to dirt/dust/grease, but this is all based on premium russian manufacture compared to the chinese knock off versions that constitute what most "ak47" pattern guns really are these days.

It's reliable, not infallible, and these men are hardly well enough trained to have the sleight of hand perk yet.

Tony Stark could do it with a Nokia 3210?

Or you could run at them and jump right as they detonate, catapulting yourself to safety in Quake inspired glory.

But that was a 3210, no modern smartphone could do that.

 

[koolpc]

I know some say it is common sense the things on that list but when faced with a gunman etc i bet all logic goes out the window as terror sets in.

 

[jsmoke]

Try a Paul Gascoigne and offer them lager and fried chicken.

 

[Gilly]

On the contrary. If everyone did drugs, weed at least, there'd be absolutely no conflict in the world.

Rubbish. The paranoia that would cause? There'd be more trouble than ever.

 

[Outcast]

All of you throw ** at them.. Then poo though their letterboxes.

Better than being shot in the back on a Turkey Shoot

 

[Malevolence]

Decades of FPS games have prepared me for this pretty well in terms of getting the hell out of Dodge!

You say that, but what happens when, during your burst for safety, you encounter that small rock that for some strange reason you simply can't get over or find your path blocked by a flimsy wooden door that is impervious to all known weaponry?

 

[Angilion]

People like to think how they are going to react. I like to think I would do something, but most people will probably panic, either freeze or run around like headless chickens and end up dead.
They have AK47's and suicide belts, I'll have a mobile phone and a latte.

Perhaps we should consider an armed populace. If a substantial proportion of the population routinely carry guns, even just handguns, the body count of this style of attack would be reduced.

1 normal person with a handgun against 1 devout killer with a large capacity rifle and the intention of dying might well make a difference (the one person might well be behind the attacker and can safely shoot them in the back). 10 normal people with hanguns will make a difference.

Although the total number of people killed per year would almost certainly go up a lot.

 

[Curio]

Perhaps we should consider an armed populace. If a substantial proportion of the population routinely carry guns, even just handguns, the body count of this style of attack would be reduced.

1 normal person with a handgun against 1 devout killer with a large capacity rifle and the intention of dying might well make a difference (the one person might well be behind the attacker and can safely shoot them in the back). 10 normal people with hanguns will make a difference.

Although the total number of people killed per year would almost certainly go up a lot.

I....I....don't know where to start

 

[adolf hamster]

Although the total number of people killed per year would almost certainly go up a lot.

Probably higher than the number of people killed by terrorists in a year.

Guns are safe when in the hands of the right people, problem is what constitutes "the right people" is very hard to judge right, we cant afford to train everyone to be safe with them and neither can we afford to vet people enough to tell if they are or not.

Again another airsofting analagy, but the amount of folk (normally rentals) who leave their magazines in after the call for "mags out clear guns", and the amount of walk ons (hell even i admit to doing this) who clear rifles of ammo, but leave pistols locked and loaded.

Now the worst that can do is take an eye out, but imagine that same attitude scaled up to the whole population (including those with no interest or even vague knowledge of guns) and with the danger of real ammunition.

 

[teaboy5]

If hiding just remember that Hollywood has lied to you your entire life and almost nothing is bulletproof

No way! You mean to tell me an AK-47 will go through a simple car door?

Well that's me ****ed. Hollywood shame on you!

 

[andi]

Still depresses me that Run and Hide is the advice given to police officers too

 

[Vern1961]

Run or hide still seems the best option if you want to live.

I have no experience of real combat (not even a punch up) but I would imagine it is seriously unlike anything COD or Fallout has prepared us for. There's no VATS button in real life. Even if the terrorist doesn't shoot you dead on your "charge" a non mortal heavy calibre bullet strike is liable to leave you with "life changing" (PC speak for minus a limb or other body part) injury. Even if successful and you disarm the terrorist in a muddled situation you are a person with a gun so if the police or special forces happen to make their charge at the same time...

It's nice to sit at our keyboards and hope we could make a difference and maybe if, as noted above, death was 100% certain anyway it just might be worth having a go but the reality for most people with no training would at best be a quick assessment as to the best chance to keep yourself and loved ones alive.

 

[TheVoice]

Still depresses me that Run and Hide is the advice given to police officers too

This would likely still be true even if we were unfortunate enough to have routinely-armed police. A 9mm pistol vs an AK isn't a fair fight.

Anyway, we had a similar email distributed at work on the morning of the Paris attacks, albeit it was meant specifically for our building so I won't repeat any of it. It didn't actually tell you what to do though, but more just gave you options and suggestions of routes or actions and essentially said "Decide what's best at the time", which is realistically all you can do. There's no point telling people to go a certain way or do a certain thing if that ends up putting them in more danger.

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

Still depresses me that Run and Hide is the advice given to police officers too

Why
Getting ALL targets away from these brainwashed murderers and then waiting for specialist teams who are both equipped and trained for these situations is Shirley the sensible and logical thing to do!!
Standard police officers are neither equipped or trained to deal with such a situation and would be on a suicide mission if they tried to apprehend the murderers !!