For his sake better hope it was another group they were bombing. Russians been hitting them just as much, if not more, than IS.
Even then they won't be too impressed so would not want to be in his shoes right now.
Nato wont be too happy
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For his sake better hope it was another group they were bombing. Russians been hitting them just as much, if not more, than IS.
Even then they won't be too impressed so would not want to be in his shoes right now.
Nato wont be too happy
wtf why would the Turkish even open fire on a jet they know its not going to be anyone but a friendly nation :/
this seems utterly mental :/
and surely after they shoot it down theyd know they have to defend the pilots who ejected?
i just dont even...
this seems utterly mental :/
and surely after they shoot it down theyd know they have to defend the pilots who ejected?
i just dont even...
If the russian jet crashed inside Syria then its all lost for the Turks, either way the turks have been poking the bear for too long and i dont see this ending well for them
what's Russia going to do invade turkey? that means declaring war on NATO.
it will be swept aside just like every USA-UK friendly fire incident.
Another one of these support polls got published in the paper (Times) today. The Survation survey of 1,000 British Muslims found that one in five Muslims have sympathy for fighters who choose to leave Britain to wage war in Syria
You have to wonder about how many enemies we have within and whether tackling radicalisation at home is working.
You have to wonder about how many enemies we have within and whether tackling radicalisation at home is working.
Yep.
they wont invade Turkey, ofcourse, but that would mean Turks have declared and handed over the Syrian airspace to Russian control, remember at anytime Assad and Russians (who were invited by assad to help the sovereign state of Syria) can declare its airspace a no-fly zone and shoot down ANY aircraft that doesnt belong to Russia or Syrias allies.
See turkey's policy in the region is a high risk one and senseless, opportunistic and megalomaniac. Russia is not a country to test your strength upon, that can be done with others like Greece or Bulgaria, Armenia etc. Turkey is not in the same league with Russia
It might have been in The Times but the source is still The Sun
Plus it doesn't specify who they're going to fight in Syria. It might be that they have sympathy for people going over to fight against IS
It might have been in The Times but the source is still The Sun
Plus it doesn't specify who they're going to fight in Syria. It might be that they have sympathy for people going over to fight against IS
Aye, apparently the question didn't ask anything about what they'd be fighting for in Syria.
And the Sun lumped both support and IIRC "understand why" (or something similar) together.
Which is a fairly important thing to consider when you remember that for example some ex UK Soldiers (Christian) have gone over to Syria to fight with the Kurds and other rebels against IS.
If you asked the same basic question "would you support UK military efforts in Syria" of non Muslim brits at the moment you'd probably get a high number of people saying yes (and that question wouldn't say if it was action for Isis or against, any more than the one in the Sun poll).
The joys of deliberately vague polling to get the answer you (as the person setting the question) want.
Syria is an utter mess of conflicting sides, with from memory various rebel groups fighting against Assad and IS. IS fighting against everyone, Assad fighting against everyone.
Not the bastion of statistical research given the source it likely that the resulting figures are skewed simply by the sample being a sub set that is their readership rather than the population as a whole.
you think the suns readership contains a larger than average percentage of radical Muslims?
Previous Sky News and ComRes polls have shown similar results. Don't you like the response given?
Who says its sun readers who did the questionnaire.
Simple. Turkey hates Kurds (PKK) that ISIS just so happen to hate (along with everyone else) so therefore they want ISIS to kill the kurds. The allied forces hate ISIS and therefore align with the Kurds.
The problem was that Turkey was a 'neutral' state and could be seen to be siding with ISIS. A strong message may have been needed by turkey if they feel they need to show 'no-action-nutrality' (i.e. not allowing russian to transverse across their airspace) to help get rid of the kurds.. but shooting a russian plane that may or may not be doing anything dodgy is possibly the wrong way to go about it.
UK subs went on a search just this week after a russian sub was seen to be driving around looking at undersea cables.. the press naturally state that they're looking at possible first strike scenarios. There's strong noises that NATO should take Finland under the mantle to prevent russia from extending into Finland (again). I understand russia wanting to maintain an independent military system hence the sub movements.. but you need to understand if these are "BAU" operations or if there's a subtext.