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But if you aren't coloured or a homosexual, which surprisingly even today many in the UK are not, Russia does have its attractions.
ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.
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Dowie, just in case you are replying to this thread...I was busy penning a reply to your post in the thread about air strikes, but it was closed whilst I was typing. My response below, if you're interested:
By increasing resentment against the west within the civilian population, which ISIS uses to it's advantage to lure people into support for their extremist views.
Somewhat related, here is another article written by someone with first hand experience of ISIS. The article was written in The Guardian, so I'm aware most here will instantly dismiss it with the standard "*******" response, but the basic summary is how ISIS rely on dividing society in order to grow their numbers. Worth a read as a primary source, even if you are usually dismissive of left-leaning journalism:
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...mbs-hostage-syria-islamic-state-paris-attacks
By increasing resentment against the west within the civilian population, which ISIS uses to it's advantage to lure people into support for their extremist views.
Somewhat related, here is another article written by someone with first hand experience of ISIS. The article was written in The Guardian, so I'm aware most here will instantly dismiss it with the standard "*******" response, but the basic summary is how ISIS rely on dividing society in order to grow their numbers. Worth a read as a primary source, even if you are usually dismissive of left-leaning journalism:
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...mbs-hostage-syria-islamic-state-paris-attacks
you're linking to a general opinion piece from someone held hostage by them in Syria, I'm not sure that answers the question of whether we've strengthened their resolve as a result of activities carried out so far in Iraq, if anything it has helped make things more difficult for them - just moving around has become incredibly difficult for them, they're ambushed by SF, they're hit with drone strikes, the Kurds are getting training and supplies - there are plenty of reports that it has affected their moral.
Correct. Our mission objective is to disrupt and degrade ISIL. We have been doing that successfully through air strikes in Iraq, we now need to extend that work into Syria.
Excellent, another positive step in excluding the ISIS sleeper cells from Western lands, Canada rumoured to be turning away single fighting age men in their refugee resettlement plan from December 1st.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/23/canada-syrian-refugee-resettlement-plan-no-single-men
Get ready for the loony ******* response, I predict :
THIS IS SO RACIIIIIIIIIIIIIST!
NAZISSSSS!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/23/canada-syrian-refugee-resettlement-plan-no-single-men
Get ready for the loony ******* response, I predict :
THIS IS SO RACIIIIIIIIIIIIIST!
NAZISSSSS!
Just to be clear, I wasn't actually using the opinion piece to answer the question directly, but I thought it would make for somewhat interesting related reading, so worth posting.
I answered the question in the first part of my post, and I was summarising the original article from my post in the other thread (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-islamic-state-has-just-returned-9938438.html) about the first hand experience of the airstrikes in Mosul, questioning their effectiveness and suspected effect on strengthening ISIS's ability to recruit, ie, their general 'resolve'.
You don't see an issue with your source?
Are you unaware of the mass exactions happening in the area, the genocide, the massive increase in rape etc, caused by Isis, much of which they themselves document and upload. This may give you some idea why such "reports" are on the increase. They don't have any option. Say anything bad and the heads get chopped off.
Bombing will strengthen them, just watch you'll see.
What have we achieved in fifteen years of the war on terror? We've gone from a few groups of small terrorists hiding in the mountains to terrorists controlling whole swaths of land big enough to be a country.
Hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed, do you think when a bomb kills a family that there relatives will care it was a accident?
That's where all the terrorists are coming from.
And were just creating tonnes more, unlike the poor folk in them countries we actually have great education systems and strong justice with economic stability.
What's our response to Paris attacks, more bombing?!
Our politicians really are pathetic, stupid and impotent. We're just heading for more bloodshed.
When the bombings don't work we'll end up sending armies and walk into the trap isis has set.
What have we achieved in fifteen years of the war on terror? We've gone from a few groups of small terrorists hiding in the mountains to terrorists controlling whole swaths of land big enough to be a country.
Hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed, do you think when a bomb kills a family that there relatives will care it was a accident?
That's where all the terrorists are coming from.
And were just creating tonnes more, unlike the poor folk in them countries we actually have great education systems and strong justice with economic stability.
What's our response to Paris attacks, more bombing?!
Our politicians really are pathetic, stupid and impotent. We're just heading for more bloodshed.
When the bombings don't work we'll end up sending armies and walk into the trap isis has set.
Sorry, are we talking at crossed purposes? The experience I'm referring to is that published by a German reporter who spent time there and then returned home; he's not still out there, so as far as I can see, is free to publish his findings without much fear of reprisal. I've made no reference to anyone else's reports of the situation.
Good god, who do you think he talked to. To get this info.
That is a much more complicated story - even without our input there are huge factional issues across the middle east and Syria was a problem waiting to happen - there was no way all the different elements that ended up there could have been reconciled. I can't remember the exact figures but a fairly moderate proportion of the population there ended up there as refugees in the first place.
They had no intentions or the ability IS has to attack and destroy the west.
They were more akin to a few fellows in the mountain then international terrorists with a world wide reach.
What? That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. If you think Russia is a nice place to live then you know nothing about Russia.
You're not just naive, you're ignorant.
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14 days to surrender then a few nukes, that should sort it.
They dropping the wrong type of bombs!
So soon after I accused someone of saying the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, you come along and top it.
If you are sincere then I am truly saddened. There is no cure for what you have.
