Numberphile

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I'm studying to be an Engineer, so some things I find particularly interesting; namely maths and numbers. Given this is a computer forum at heart, I thought quite a few people would share this view. I really enjoy the numberphile Youtube channel and wondered if anyone else did? Also, potentially might make some people aware of it, and channels like it, who may be interested.

Anyway, I thought this particular video might be of interest specifically to this community:

https://youtu.be/wo19Y4tw0l8

Also, this is one of my favourites (anything to do with infinity blows my mind):

https://youtu.be/w-I6XTVZXww

/nerd

Edit: Youtube links didn't work!
 
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On a related note I find Pi fascinating. We think it is likely to be infinite without repeating patterns then it may contain every possible combination of numbers. So at some point in Pi there may be enough information to describe our universe. Therefore our own universe may be simply a manifestation of someone elses Pi.

Wait... what have I been smoking????
 
On a related note I find Pi fascinating. We think it is likely to be infinite without repeating patterns then it may contain every possible combination of numbers. So at some point in Pi there may be enough information to describe our universe. Therefore our own universe may be simply a manifestation of someone elses Pi.

Wait... what have I been smoking????

You need to watch this...

https://youtu.be/elvOZm0d4H0
 
I wish I was as passionate about something as that guy.

I actually mean that. I'm a little jealous.
 
On a related note I find Pi fascinating. We think it is likely to be infinite without repeating patterns then it may contain every possible combination of numbers. So at some point in Pi there may be enough information to describe our universe. Therefore our own universe may be simply a manifestation of someone elses Pi.

Wait... what have I been smoking????

Weird isn't it, something as simple on the surface as 22/7 is actually quite endlessly huge, makes my brain ache :p
 
1+2+3+4+5+... = -1/12 is just annoying. I know it's a demonstration that playing with infinite sums gives silly answers, but the fact that there's no fallacy in the calculation really annoys me
 
1+2+3+4+5+... = -1/12 is just annoying. I know it's a demonstration that playing with infinite sums gives silly answers, but the fact that there's no fallacy in the calculation really annoys me

The "fallacy" is it's not a proof, just an intuitive way to see roughly what's going on. Lots of good material in their follow up video:


He hits on a deep truth about 13 mins in - that we're dealing with divergent sums here so trying to relate this result to "intuitive" (finite) summations is a nonsense.
 
On a related note I find Pi fascinating. We think it is likely to be infinite without repeating patterns then it may contain every possible combination of numbers. So at some point in Pi there may be enough information to describe our universe. Therefore our own universe may be simply a manifestation of someone elses Pi.

Wait... what have I been smoking????

Yeah but then you put rads into the equation and Pi turns to 180!
 
I gotta admit, as someone who is currently doing MU123 at the OU, this is a great thread. Might not be very relevant to what I'm doing, but very interesting nonetheless, thanks :)
 
VSauce also covers this but in relation to the Banach-Tarski paradox, which is fascinating.


That's awesome, thanks for sharing :)

I very nearly morphed this into the Youtube thread last night when it was posted but I think it's a valid thread of it's own.
 
Did a lot of these things in Physics. I always wondered that if we fundamentally used another way of writing numbers, say in fractions or multiples of Pi (and powers of) or another common and major constant, how our understanding of things would change and that even very young children would understand (not just memorise) some of the things we end up studying in higher education. Some basic equations today might end up looking more complex while others would be cleaned up considerably. Rather than counting using integers in a straight line, we may count differently and peoples basic understanding of certain things may change completely.

I hate the 'Some people just cant do maths attitude' people develop when their motivation to understand is defeated by their willingness to accept that the fault of not understanding is not theirs but just is. I understand some people take to it more naturally but i also understand that is because it is a language based on rules and logic. Some people understand the rules and logic straight away while others just have to memorise it until it clicks.

This 'not everyone can do everything' school attitude has led to a poor standard of education regarding maths up until until college I would say. It seems that standards in most countries are higher at the same age group. Concepts we consider advance like imaginary/complex numbers are in actuality very easy and basic from a skill point of view and we only avoid teaching it at lower levels because understanding what these numbers may represent could be considered not difficult but the sums involved to start learning the concept is not. In some other countries these things are taught at primary school level, so many develop an understanding of complex numbers before the 16 year olds in this country make the decision to take Further Maths A-level (yes it counts as an advanced mathematics a-level module -.-) and get to learn that imaginary numbers even exist.

A student here normally learns integration, differentiation in A-level. Parabolas, complex numbers, matrices too if they take certain modules. It is ridiculous that some of that stuff is taught at primary school or secondary school level in many countries but there is no option to learn it here until you are legally old enough to have a kid.
 
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Mat:

I watched that a couple of days ago. Really interesting.

StoutMeister:

I am indeed mate.

Avenged7Fold:

I know where you're coming from, but academic subjects just aren't for everyone. It took me til my late 20s to go to university. Mainly because I was bone idle at school. However, the option should definitely be there for younger kids to learn more advanced subjects if they are capable.
 
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