New Gaming PC - £2,000 MAX

CrixxzeH

CrixxzeH

CrixxzeH

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Hope you are all well @ OcUK.

I am going to be ordering a new gaming system in the next week and hoped you guys could have a look and see if it is all compatible and will all fit together whilst, also seeing if there are any alternatives.

  • My main use for this PC is to play games at 1920x1080 resolution.
  • I want the best z170 motherboard for Audio.
  • Red and Black scheme for me as I really want this to be aesthetically pleasing.

NEED the base unit - monitor - OS. -£2,000 MAX cannot exceed. (I have got this basket atm, so saving some reddies)

I am going to be getting this system built and overclocked by Overclockers.

I am looking at getting the CPU to an intermediate overclock of 4.3-4.5 and hopefully a 20-30% overclock on the GPU. I dont want to hitch anything when spending this amount of money and would really appreciate it if you could take time to skim over the build before I pull the trigger.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,935.74
(includes shipping: £28.02)
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Much apreciated,

CRX.
 
I reckon you could get X99 with that budget.

That cable mod set wont work with that Superflower PSU.



My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,841.91
(includes shipping: £23.10)
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My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,976.82
(includes shipping: £28.02)
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Thanks for the fast reply Stulid.

I did not realise that about the Superflower PSU.

The x99 systems are definitely a powerhouse. They are definitely the better system here, with the extra cores.


I dont know if I am going to be benefiting from the extra cores though with me playing at this resolution, although it would make the system more future proof.


It is quite amazing how the much price difference is between these builds, I will have to think about it.
 
Honestly, if you are still playing at 1080p, why spend 2 grand on a new rig? May aswell spend £1500 and a £500 ISH Freesync/Gsync monitor...
 
theaterix said:
Honestly, if you are still playing at 1080p, why spend 2 grand on a new rig? May aswell spend £1500 and a £500 ISH Freesync/Gsync monitor...
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Yeah that does seem like a lot of money for a 1080p system but it kinda makes sense.

I'd go for the X99, it's not quite a gaming focused but it's more flexible.
 
My 2c:

You're spending a obscene amount on cooling but the returns aren't going to be there. Even a stock i7 6700 will be better than that (it boosts up to 4ghz and the scaling has diminishing returns anyway, see here. If you really want to OC (though I'd say the gains are marginal at best <=10%) then why that corsair? You can get equal or better temps as well as quiet with air cooling, and you don't risk leaks or whine either.

Secondly, the mobo is way too expensive and again the gains will be nothing more than placebo compared to cheaper z170 boards.

Third, I'd avoid Asus for gpu. You have the option of going EVGA, their support and warranty are ace, why not get that instead?

Lastly, consider AMD as well. There's some pretty dope freesync monitors available and quiet cheap as well.

I think if you'd also provide us with what games you play (or plan to) we'd better be able to help as well.
 
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My 2c:
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The i7/i5 has practically no difference between them for GAMING as the core speeds are virtually the same. I do note that some of the newer games are taking use of hyperthreading.

I do feel like most air coolers are clunky and although they do offer the same performance I do prefer liquid coolers.

I have always thought of Asus as a reputable brand and chose because the cooler seems decent. I will look at the EVGA.

For me AMD and gaming should never be used in the same sentence Intel /nvidia for me %100
 
Stovepipes said:
Yeah that does seem like a lot of money for a 1080p system but it kinda makes sense.

I'd go for the X99, it's not quite a gaming focused but it's more flexible.
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I agree it is a lot of money for an i5 1080p system compared to Stulids suggestions. I do feel the i5 set up gives me room for future upgrades such as an i7 6700K and ROG SWIFT whilst, this also keeps me on the latest platform (Skylake).
 
CrixxzeH said:
The i7/i5 has practically no difference between them for GAMING as the core speeds are virtually the same. I do note that some of the newer games are taking use of hyperthreading.

I do feel like most air coolers are clunky and although they do offer the same performance I do prefer liquid coolers.

I have always thought of Asus as a reputable brand and chose because the cooler seems decent. I will look at the EVGA.

For me AMD and gaming should never be used in the same sentence Intel /nvidia for me %100
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i7 does make a difference, Witcher 3, GTA V, Fallout 4, Crysis 3, and the list could go on. That's without even counting any multi-tasking you'd do (even just running youtube/twitch in the background and chrome open). It also makes a difference towards minimum fps and stability which are more important than just avg fps.

As for your opinions about air coolers & amd - totally unjustified but it's your money in the end.
 
If you are thinking of buying a i5 skylake, 1080p monitor so you have an upgrade path to an i7 and start out with a 2k budget, you are doing it wrong.

That budget will net you a great set up overkill for 1080p or a set up with a balanced monitor greater than 1080p. Really Intel doesn't see enough gains on the same socket to ever warrant an upgrade from an i5 for gaming.

Also, dont these new Mobos come with native PCIe SSD boot support for both ahci and nvme? i would grab that as the boot drive. My PC doesnt have support but i will upgrade using the ASUS adapter regardless :3
 
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I have taken on board what Stulid and Poneros have said.

Seriously thinking of the x99 now for the latest games. I feel the x99 will be greater performance for money spent, is it worth purchasing x99 and skipping skylake all together?


Edit this is only £20 ish more than the x99 gaming 5 - GIGABYTE Z170X GAMING 7 - SKYLAKE CORE I7 6700K CPU & MOTHERBOARD BUNDLE **£36 SAVING**

As I'll be gaming at 1080p 144hz with Gsync, will the 980ti not be an overkill?
I'm thinking of getting either the x99 or 6700k with an 970 if so, this will save me £250
 
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I say grab the x99 with a 970 and you have plenty of CPU space for future upgrades. The x99 and Ti is overkill but the price difference for the x99 is so little that you might as well for peace of mind. At least you have an 8 core 16 thread option too if you need to in the future. The Ti price difference is too much if the 970 does the job, so grab the 970 and re-assess the situation when Pascal is round the corner.

Also, drop the standard SSD and grab them shiny insanely fast PCIe NVME drives. All Asus x99 boards supposedly have native support and it would be a waste not to considering their price now and how they have matured.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
I say grab the x99 with a 970 and you have plenty of CPU space for future upgrades. The x99 and Ti is overkill but the price difference for the x99 is so little that you might as well for peace of mind. At least you have an 8 core 16 thread option too if you need to in the future. The Ti price difference is too much if the 970 does the job, so grab the 970 and re-assess the situation when Pascal is round the corner.

Also, drop the standard SSD and grab them shiny insanely fast PCIe NVME drives. All Asus x99 boards supposedly have native support and it would be a waste not to considering their price now and how they have matured.
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Yeah that's some good advice. I'm going to go with the 6700k, although it does not have as many cores and threads, it's newer and I feel I'm getting everything I want on the motherboard that is included as a bundle whilst also giving myself that bit more kick out of the CPU, I will feel comfortable with an 970 atm like you said pascal is only round the corner so If I do feel like it, I could upgrade the gpu and monitor.

I have heard about the m2 drives, would they bottleneck an z170 system?
 
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The nvme are a waste of money unless you have very specific use cases (non-gaming). Anything over standard SSD (like an 850 EVO) is just wasted money for the most part because the speed increases are marginal and cpu-bound. I think the 970 is good, and mid-range cards keep a lot of their re-sale value when new gen hits so you wouldn't lose too much by selling and upgrading. That's always been the smartest value path tbh.
 
Padraig said:
Studlids builds are epic either one would be much better than the skylake build and a 980ti with x99 cant get much better.
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For 1080p though, why not save the cash for the next upgrade. Future proof is not about getting the fastest thing available but rather making sure your resources ie money or whatever you buy with them, will last their longest

Also OP, if you are so concerned about audio that you would drop the x99 and go for z97 for the onboard chip, then i would just get a soundcard, since even a cheapish one is miles better than onboard.
 
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I have to agree about the 980ti. A truly fantastic card but running at at 1080p makes little financial sense, especially considering you're thinking about getting a Gsync monitor.

If you're thinking of getting a better monitor in the near future though...
 
Poneros said:
The nvme are a waste of money unless you have very specific use cases (non-gaming). Anything over standard SSD (like an 850 EVO) is just wasted money for the most part because the speed increases are marginal and cpu-bound. I think the 970 is good, and mid-range cards keep a lot of their re-sale value when new gen hits so you wouldn't lose too much by selling and upgrading. That's always been the smartest value path tbh.
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Thanks a lot for clearing that up much appreciated as Google was not making a lot of sense to me.
 
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