It was indeed. By experts in closing doors and looking at the rears of horses.
Tories grant 18 fracking licences - all north of Leicester
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It was indeed. By experts in closing doors and looking at the rears of horses.
Lucky the environmental agency aren't the regulator then.
keep failing to do basic research
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Aren't we sitting on enough nuclear fuel to last 1200 years or something like that?
It won't.
The regulations regarding national parks are a farce so at last this makes them more reasonable.
No fracking under National Parks because of the alleged damage fracking may cause at the surface (which was already discussed in this thread - other than well sites, it won't). But regarding those well sites, you can drill conventional wells in National Parks (and they have been drilled in the last few years), that isn't affected by all this...
The idea of not fracking beneath National Parks was pandering to people that had no idea of the science behind fracking and had not read the multiple (UK relevant) reports on the matter. It is a win for those that want to keep National Parks as they are though, it reduces the number of wells likely to be drilled in them by removing any possibility of unconventional wells.
As mentioned it removes any problems with traffic to outside the National Park (ignoring things like Forestry Commission lorries and farmers vehicles which already operate in national parks).
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You're doing well to get from Darlo to Kielder in an hour... A68 direct, A1>A69>A68 or other route? you flew, I'm assuming?
Back on topic: undecided on fracking, but damn annoyed by the Tory scum using a cheeky backdoor way of getting this through.
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It was, but Gordon Brown quietly scrapped most of the controls brought in after the IBCC scandal during his time in Number 11.
The HSE do quite a good job actually but lets not let your rant get in the way of the facts.
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Exactly, fracking has been around for decades.
But who are we to let facts get in the way of a good ole bandwagon
Unfortunately it takes a long time to plan a well. Even when you've finally decided where you want to drill to you then need to decide where you want to put the pad, work out the shape of the well, study the subsurface to check if it's possible, plan the well path, get approval from the money, contact drilling/logging/fracking contractors, write reports, write reports and presentations, talk to contractors for months to organize the best way to do it, contact landowners, write applications, send reports, presentations and applications to multiple overseeing organisations (HSE, EA etc.), consult with organisations/experts over months until they are satisfied, write planning application and send to council planning Department, liease with department and make requested changes over a few months, have public consultations, get approval from all sides for modified plans, then have council meeting where they ignore all expert advice and decline application...
Start appeal proceedings > (now) government takes it out of local councils hands after a year of council representatives ******* about.
Then have complaints by people saying its all a fix... No, the councillors ignored expert advice and recommendations from their own employees, from various government and extra government departments and multiple other sources, either because they didn't actually understand the application (quite likely) or because they weren't interested in any of it anyway (probably a mix of both).
That is why it's taking so long... (Which is partly what anti fracking activists want, to delay).
Start appeal proceedings > (now) government takes it out of local councils hands after a year of council representatives ******* about.
Then have complaints by people saying its all a fix... No, the councillors ignored expert advice and recommendations from their own employees, from various government and extra government departments and multiple other sources, either because they didn't actually understand the application (quite likely) or because they weren't interested in any of it anyway (probably a mix of both).
That is why it's taking so long... (Which is partly what anti fracking activists want, to delay).
That's why real time seismic monitoring is a requirement in UK wells being fracked. It means any buildup to a larger quake like that one would be noticed and the frack stopped or pressure reduced, depending on the buildup.
Along with 3D seismic surveys and pre and post seismic monitoring.
It was certainly a big one for sure and really should have have happened. That said that area of BC is in a totally different stress regime than the UK (and much of Europe).
Interesting to note... In the UK anything above 0.0 requires caution/reduced rates and anything above 0.5 requires the pumping/injection suspension. Which is actually quite difficult to read at surface as it can easily be below the background noise (wind, cars in the distance etc).
Along with 3D seismic surveys and pre and post seismic monitoring.
It was certainly a big one for sure and really should have have happened. That said that area of BC is in a totally different stress regime than the UK (and much of Europe).
Interesting to note... In the UK anything above 0.0 requires caution/reduced rates and anything above 0.5 requires the pumping/injection suspension. Which is actually quite difficult to read at surface as it can easily be below the background noise (wind, cars in the distance etc).
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There is a massive police operation (helicopters, lines of police vans, road closures) current in progress not far from Chester Zoo as it appears the police are evicting the anti-fracking protesters at one of the suggested test drilling sites.
Can't believe the expense of this police operation is worth it. With global prices of oil/gas so low its not economical to drill there surely.
Can't believe the expense of this police operation is worth it. With global prices of oil/gas so low its not economical to drill there surely.
They didn't even do that, the banks just said "We ****ed up, come at me bro"
There is a massive police operation (helicopters, lines of police vans, road closures) current in progress not far from Chester Zoo as it appears the Baliffs are evicting the anti-fracking protesters at one of the suggested test drilling sites.
Can't believe the expense of this police operation is worth it. With global prices of oil/gas so low its not economical to drill there surely.
There we go, corrected your post.
There is a massive police operation (helicopters, lines of police vans, road closures) current in progress not far from Chester Zoo as it appears the police are evicting the anti-fracking protesters at one of the suggested test drilling sites.
Can't believe the expense of this police operation is worth it. With global prices of oil/gas so low its not economical to drill there surely.
Cost generally have nothing to do with policing operations. I'd hope the oil company isn't paying for it, in much the same way any other eviction shouldn't mean the property owner has to pay for police help.
Edit: http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/n...ton-fracking-eviction-notice-verdict-10400469 assuming it's that one they should have packed up and left the farmers land over a month ago.
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