Worse thing was I was closing down after trying to boot from a USB (Macrium Reflex) recovery stick, which I failed to achieve... and then it hanged for 40mins closing down making me think I'd borked the system
Windows 10
- Thread starter Glaucus
- Start date
Worse thing was I was closing down after trying to boot from a USB (Macrium Reflex) recovery stick, which I failed to achieve... and then it hanged for 40mins closing down making me think I'd borked the system
Yeah - they really need to put Windows update control back into the hands of the users - MS can't know what you are doing IRL so it just causes more frustration than anything else.
As I mentioned recently I had that pop up on my tablet when trying to shutdown to preserve battery and nowhere near a power source... ******* stupid. (Bit confused why it happened as well as I hadn't run windows update and didn't have a scheduled restart during that session and hadn't had internet connectivity for the previous hour).
As I mentioned recently I had that pop up on my tablet when trying to shutdown to preserve battery and nowhere near a power source... ******* stupid. (Bit confused why it happened as well as I hadn't run windows update and didn't have a scheduled restart during that session and hadn't had internet connectivity for the previous hour).
Absolutely. Updating when it shuts down due to a low battery is one thing that has caused me to have to work at it to replair it more than a few times, and I have also had to reinstall Windows more than once too because of the harm it can do.
This is something that MS have clearly overlooked and it is simply NOT acceptable.
I have in fact complained about this one issue more than once to them.
This is something that MS have clearly overlooked and it is simply NOT acceptable.
I have in fact complained about this one issue more than once to them.
So that long close down in #9641 ("getting windows ready") was probably an update being applied? All 40mins of it?
Trouble is, the updates are more frequent and more important than they used to be. You can't have everyone running different versions of an os, that is meant to be update regularly. It isn't just bug updates anymore.
It's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't. So I dint expect it to change.
They could make it smarter and not to do it if not on power, or give more options to delay by a few days or something.
Last edited:
You absolutely cannot have OSes or file-systems getting corrupted because power runs out in the middle of an update. Not under any circumstances whatsoever. Having an OS out of sync for a few days/weeks is minor compared to data/OS corruption. MS should know this as it's not like corporate customers won't be delaying updates far longer than that.
I don't see the issue - you are going to get people from time to time who for instance end up in hospital for 6 months and never power on their PC during that time or away on business in a remote location without internet access for months at a time - so there will always have to be an update path (obviously there may be some online services, etc. where upgrades will have to happen before you can use them again).
Ultimately regardless of the concept - Windows Update can never be fully real life context aware - going down a route of more and more complex special casing is just silly.
There are many people for whom the current update system works very well so I don't have an issue with it in that sense but there are also going to be a lot of people (typically power users) for who it results in a less than optimal experience and I don't really want to take drastic action to stop it working as I tend to try and keep on top of important updates, etc. just a bit more on a schedule where I have a bit of time to work out any issues that arise.
Last edited:
Soldato
- Joined
- 27 Dec 2009
- Posts
- 2,727
- Location
- Gillingham, Kent
Don't need to - optimise for Windows 10 defrags HDDs and TRIMs SSDs automatically, so you're fine to leave it as default.
w10 is about to over take w7 on steam and Microsoft have released new stats the other week, now surpassed 200million active installs.Their free upgrade certainly is working for them.
Now can they translate that to apps,
Steam
Win7 34.81% -0.82%
Win10 31.25% +2.44%
Win8.1 15.09% -1.41%
Soldato
- Joined
- 12 May 2011
- Posts
- 6,305
- Location
- Southampton
Quite a few of my older games play with a white border around when running in fullscreen. Apparently this has been an issue since Windows 8- does anyone know if there is a workaround (I've tried compatibility settings, which seems to help in some games) as the forum posts that show up when I google the issue are quite old??
I've noticed sometimes it defrags the SSD instead of TRIM's it. just like win 8/8.1 did.
it seems MS hasn't fixed it.
Soldato
- Joined
- 27 Dec 2009
- Posts
- 2,727
- Location
- Gillingham, Kent
That's weird. How can you tell if "optimise" is defragging the drive or just running TRIM? When I first installed Win10 I wasn't sure what it meant by optimise on my SSDs, so I Googled and found what I replied earlier (on sites/threads such as this http://www.nextofwindows.com/windows-10-treats-ssds-extremely-well-with-improved-management-features). Really hoping I wasn't mistaken and posted duff information.
Soldato
- Joined
- 27 Dec 2009
- Posts
- 2,727
- Location
- Gillingham, Kent
On a different Windows 10 topic, I know with the latest build you can use a Windows 7/8 key to activate a fresh Windows install. If I've done this and at a later date I wanted to reinstall Windows 10, would I then need to enter the key again or will it auto-activate when online like if I done an upgrade from an installed Windows 7 or 8?
EDIT - This page - https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 - indicates the key won't be needed if Windows 10 has previously been activated on the machine, so hopefully it wouldn't be needed in future if a future fresh install is required. May have to do some tests if I get time to verify that.
EDIT - This page - https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 - indicates the key won't be needed if Windows 10 has previously been activated on the machine, so hopefully it wouldn't be needed in future if a future fresh install is required. May have to do some tests if I get time to verify that.
Last edited:
Hi Stu,
From my understanding, once you have upgraded or used your 7/8 licence to install win 10 first time it will subsequently activate on its own on further re installs to same hardware or same machine.
Hope that clarifies for you.
Mark
Mine has been stuck trying to do an Asus update and Adobe update for over a week now. It's just sat at %3 downloading and has not changed. If I go into the details it say the Asus driver is awaiting installation and the Adobe is awaiting download but I cannot do anything with them.
Is there a way to cancel clear updates ?
Is there a way to cancel clear updates ?
Last edited:
I assume you are posting from that system so probably doesn't apply but the WU system seems to have problems initiating an internet connection sometimes if something else hasn't made a connection first i.e. open a web browser and go to a random online page.
I'm having some issues at the moment where it keeps telling me I'm signed out of my account and to sign in and stay signed in to install windows updates :S even though I'm signed in.
I'm having some issues at the moment where it keeps telling me I'm signed out of my account and to sign in and stay signed in to install windows updates :S even though I'm signed in.