High Court: Homeowners can use 'disproportionate force' against burglars

Gixer said:
The Collin's family need to look at the root cause of their son being in a coma. That's right it's the fact your son broke into someone's property with the intent to steal. Corrective action, prevent son from doing this again. Unluckily for the chap looks like this is exactly what has happened. He knew the risk of committing a crime so it's tough titties he's now in a coma.

I do detest people that try on things like this. The Collin's family need to open their eyes and accept that their son is a criminal and paid almost the ultimate price for it. A home owner should be able to do whatever they like to protect themselves, their family or their property if someone enters it without permission.
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Obviously they're not going to accept that, because let's face it, his decision to become a criminal was probably highly influenced by his parents/upbringing, and they're hardly going to be taking responsibility, no one does these days!
 
It's very easy to spot those who habe never been in such a situation before as the tough-talk is strong with them.

Wait until someone breaks in and you find out. You're lying in bed, your wife next to you and your kids in another room, if you have any.

You will be scared, mark my words.


(Doesn't help that when it happened to me I ended up staring straight in to the barrel of an AK47 mind).
 
Gixer said:
The Collin's family need to look at the root cause of their son being in a coma. That's right it's the fact your son broke into someone's property with the intent to steal. Corrective action, prevent son from doing this again. Unluckily for the chap looks like this is exactly what has happened. He knew the risk of committing a crime so it's tough titties he's now in a coma.

I do detest people that try on things like this. The Collin's family need to open their eyes and accept that their son is a criminal and paid almost the ultimate price for it. A home owner should be able to do whatever they like to protect themselves, their family or their property if someone enters it without permission.
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I've seen too much of that. Whether it's minor or serious crimes.
One example was a guy who was massively over the alcohol limit, crashed and killed himself and two of his friends and crippled a third. His parents flat out refused to believe it was his fault and blamed the car he collided with (which was on the correct side of the road doing the speed limit), the council for not having cut down the tree he crashed in to and the ambulance service for not getting to him soon enough even though it was confirmed he was killed on impact. They just could not accept it was his own dumb ass fault especially considering everyone that knew him socially said he was a complete and utter arse.
 
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If someone broke in to my house I would put them in touch with Amazon so they could instruct all delivery drivers where we are, for they must be great at finding things.
 
Haggisman said:
Obviously they're not going to accept that, because let's face it, his decision to become a criminal was probably highly influenced by his parents/upbringing, and they're hardly going to be taking responsibility, no one does these days!
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I agree. Another word that no one seems to be able to comprehend these days is accountability.

Cases like this should never even make it to court in the first place. The family on losing the case should have been charged massive court costs so that an example is set and it'd hopefully put off others trying to take advantage of situations like this.

As for the human rights brigade I am one that believes once you step into my property without my permission you've just given those away. The person committing the crime will 100% know it's illegal what they are doing and with that they give away any human rights in my opinion.
 
Dis86 said:
I've seen too much of that. Whether it's minor or serious crimes.
One example was a guy who was massively over the alcohol limit, crashed and killed himself and two of his friends and crippled a third. His parents flat out believed it was his fault and blamed the car he collided with (which was on the correct side of the road doing the speed limit), the council for not having cut down the tree he crashed in to and the ambulance service for not getting to him soon enough even though it was confirmed he was killed on impact. They just could not accept it was his own dumb ass fault especially considering everyone that knew him socially said he was a complete and utter arse.
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Simply ridiculous isn't it!
 
Dis86 said:
I've seen too much of that. Whether it's minor or serious crimes.
One example was a guy who was massively over the alcohol limit, crashed and killed himself and two of his friends and crippled a third. His parents flat out believed it was his fault and blamed the car he collided with (which was on the correct side of the road doing the speed limit), the council for not having cut down the tree he crashed in to and the ambulance service for not getting to him soon enough even though it was confirmed he was killed on impact. They just could not accept it was his own dumb ass fault especially considering everyone that knew him socially said he was a complete and utter arse.
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You'd expect any parent to care a bit more than usual about their own offspring, though when the apple hath fallen very near the tree, then its also no surprise that the parents are also idiots.
 
Longbow said:
Has anything really changed?

People were allowed to use reasonable force before, which may even involve killing the intruder.
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No absolutely nothing has changed. This is a completely pointless article.

You always had the right to use reasonable force in the circumstances to defend yourself. Because the circumstances might dictate that you are missing information that is relevant and therefore you may use disproportionate force, this has always been allowed for. It also accounts for people's lack of training, the shock of being put in that situation and other human factors, but again, this is nothing new.
 
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