4-wheel drive (passenger cars) - Torsen, Haldex, X-Drive - Which one pleases you best?

Dilettante

Dilettante

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Let's discuss it.

Design type:
1. Torsen center differential (Audi QUATTRO cars - A4/A5/Q5/Q7 A6/A7/A8, Toyota Land Cruiser)
2. X-Drive (a multi-plate wet clutch on the output to the front drive shaft)
All BMW Cars except New X1.
3. Haldex (a multi-plate wet clutch on the output to the rear drive)
Volkswagen cars, Audi QUATTRO TT/A3/Q3, Mini/BMW X1 (New), Volvo AWD, Other cars.
4. ATTESA E-TS (a multi-plate wet clutch on the output to the front drive shaft) FM platform Nissan and Infiniti cars.
5. ...something better? ;)

I like Audi Quattro (Torsen) because of its "old-school" "mechanical" behavior when driving on snow. I Think that X-Drive is more difficult for newbie drivers.

What do U think?
 
Only ever experienced the R32's Haldex system and it's certainly been pretty decent for me when grip is at a minimum.

What kind of system do the Evo's and Scoobies use?
 
I enjoyed my S6's Quattro but it needed to be able to lock the axle diffs which it couldn't and suffered as a result in slow or tight corners.

That said, the combination of Quattro + TC meant full confidence in pretty poor conditions which could be hilarious from time to time :D
 
Gibbo said:
What does an EVO X have out of curiosity?
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EVO X is a legend. It has a full-time four-wheel drive system - S-AWC with torque vectoring technology. It integrates Active Center Differential (an electronically-controlled multi-plate clutch), Active Yaw Control (a limited slip differential. It acts like a TORSEN)
 
Dilettante said:
EVO X is a legend. It has a full-time four-wheel drive system - S-AWC with torque vectoring technology. It integrates Active Center Differential (an electronically-controlled multi-plate clutch), Active Yaw Control (a limited slip differential. It acts like a TORSEN)
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Would you say best system ever in a road car? I certainly found it better than any Quattro, Haldex system I used. Though I do like the GTR's I think its called Altezza system where the car is essentially RWD until otherwise and it can also torque vector.

But for traction ability the EVO I thought was unbeatable, its ability in snow was incredible.

For a sporty drive I found the GTR system very good, simply as its RWD until otherwise needed, or certainly feels that way. :)
 
Torsen purely for doughnuts and primarily 60% rear wheel drive. Haldex feels way too under steery. All personal opinion though.
 
My 1M Seat Leon Cupra 4 had a Haldex Traction multi-plate clutch (like the Golf IV 4 Motion). Can't remember if it was Gen 1 or Gen 2, but it was brilliant on snow.

My 8P Audi S3 had Quattro (obviously) and that was also brilliant in the snow and in the wet.
 
I've only had ATTESA E-TS Pro (R34), quattro (2x RS6) and whatever the hell is in a Defender and the ATTESA felt the "best" for quick road driving compared to the quattro as it still handled like a RWD car (obviously) where as the quattro feels very 50/50 split which removes some of the tailout action that makes driving more fun.

The best road feel obviously wasn't going to be the Defender :D
 
Honda SH-AWD is one of the best systems for a road car. Unsurpassed in terms of ability to torque vector.

They haven't really put it to full use yet. But stuff like the prelude with 4wheel steer were also well ahead of the game.
 
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