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The main issue is our relationship with Counties in the middle east, many of which we should not be dealing with at all.

They're barbaric, they still publicly hang and decapitate their own people, people need to wake up. it's not that surprising the acts these people are capable off considering how they treat their own people.

Welcome to the forum. Then why is it the West never intervenes whrn Saudi Arabia do something barbaric?... because of all the money Saudi's spend in the west. Like I said it's all about Control and Money.
 
I agree and wasn't they already on the "highest security alert" like France? If so why do i now after this latest attack keep hearing the security level has been stepped up? How, if your already at the highest what else is left, it is bull****.

Questions need asking about some various so called security levels and what is really happening, i know this attack is probably linked to the **** they arrested last week but it does seem that some of these attacks are to easy for these scum to plan and carry out, why is that?

They weren't at the highest level until after yesterdays attacks, they were 1 level off the top level.
 
Expand on that, ta.

Pathetic

Better? :p


Back on topic, I've just has a quick look at Facebook and there's the usual send them back posters going around and many people I know liking or sharing, people who are intelligent and usually pretty sensible, I guess this is just showing how fed up people are that they're willing to tar all Muslims with the same brush and overlook the facts or real issues, whatever they are
 
Back on topic, I've just has a quick look at Facebook and there's the usual send them back posters going around and many people I know liking or sharing, people who are intelligent and usually pretty sensible, I guess this is just showing how fed up people are that they're willing to tar all Muslims with the same brush and overlook the facts or real issues, whatever they are

Yup people are fed up with it. Once / twice these things happen will get the usual suspects shouting kick them all out. But after 10 years of it and it happening 2 or 3 times a year even the more moderate folks, including me, starts to get fed up with it and joins the call for something to be done. If that upsets some tree huggers then so be it, but enough is enough.

The police forces in the countries know who "most" of these people are, they just don't have the resources to watch them 24/7 and they should not have to. Thats why suddenly you get all the raids and arrests AFTER the event.

Round the buggers up and drop them back to where they belong in ISIS territory to face their god. Lock down the borders to all, including aid agencies and give them an ultimatum, cease or die because we have had enough. Sure there will be innocents, there always is, but this is war if they don't back down and cease. Their choice, at least I would give them a choice, many others wouldn't.

So lets hear all the responses now from the greater GD about how bad a man I am for thinking this.
 
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Whilst America still executes people, sometimes with a dodgy cocktail of drugs which are administered by poorly trained/incompetent people so that the people to be executed suffer immensely. If it was a choice between a good hanging or beheading and an idiot with a dodgy cocktail of drugs, I'd probably choose the former, tbh.

I suppose you have loads of evidence you proof this is happening? :rolleyes:
 
Yup people are fed up with it. Once / twice these things happen will get the usual suspects shouting kick them all out. But after 10 years of it and it happening 2 or 3 times a year even the more moderate folks, including me, starts to get fed up with it and joins the call for something to be done. If that upsets some tree huggers then so be it, but enough is enough.

I see where you are coming from and there's nothing wrong with this. For the most part people are simply docile and complacent, especially if events like this have no impact on them. What an attack like this does is remind people that there is a threat to their safety especially here, as the recent European attacks are almost drawing a line to London.

The problem with the usual suspects is that they have usually been affected by something that someone else will indirectly correlate to a group or minority. For example, like how the jews were blamed for all of Germany's ills in the 1930s and many disillusioned Germans jumped on that bandwagon. That's why I am taking issue with some of the things being said in this thread. Assigning direct blame is not the same as scape-goating.

The police forces in the countries know who "most" of these people are, they just don't have the resources to watch them 24/7 and they should not have to. Thats why suddenly you get all the raids and arrests AFTER the event.

Again I see your point; in almost every discipline a mark of societal progress particularly over the past 100 years or so has been a shift from reactive to pre-emptive, in everything from medicine to military tactics. It just makes sense and it's why we have invested so much in intelligence. People take issue on the basis of civil liberties but I have never been bothered by the notion of being monitored or spied upon because I'm simply not narcissistic enough to believe any of my communications will end up anywhere other than the "irrelevant" pile.

People are also forgetting that ignorance is bliss; the most compelling argument for why counter-terrorism should have enhanced powers to monitor, target and intercept without due legal diligence and waiting for warrants is prevention and we are not privy to all that could have happened and didn't, because it would be terrifying to the general public no doubt.


Round the buggers up and drop them back to where they belong in ISIS territory to face their god. Lock down the borders to all, including aid agencies and give them an ultimatum, cease or die because we have had enough. Sure there will be innocents, there always is, but this is war if they don't back down and cease. Their choice, at least I would give them a choice, many others wouldn't.

So lets hear all the responses now from the greater GD about how bad a man I am for thinking this.

This is where it breaks down for most people. you know what the problem is and have some well-reasoned premises. Then jumping to such a ridiculous bygone conclusion it all collapses. In reality it is a very complex situation of our making with no simple solution. Creating a mad max style partisan wasteland of the Middle East however is not likely to be a sensible or favourable solution is it??
 
Welcome to the forum. Then why is it the West never intervenes whrn Saudi Arabia do something barbaric?... because of all the money Saudi's spend in the west. Like I said it's all about Control and Money.

Did you see the documentary about the secret world of Saudi Arabia on stv yesterday? And what they teach about us in the west in their schools :eek:

http://player.stv.tv/tvguide/
Documentary revealing the hidden reality inside one of the world's strictest and most secretive Islamic regimes, shedding a light on largely unseen corners of life in Saudi Arabia
 
This is where it breaks down for most people. you know what the problem is and have some well-reasoned premises. Then jumping to such a ridiculous bygone conclusion it all collapses. In reality it is a very complex situation of our making with no simple solution. Creating a mad max style partisan wasteland of the Middle East however is not likely to be a sensible or favourable solution is it??

Aye, this is my own feelings at the moment, because next year or sooner, we will have yet another thread discussing another tradegy.

My approach is not the best and of course will not happen. TBH I see no end to this mess as they won't talk and we won't let them bomb us at will.

Another approach I sometimes think to myself is to just annex the whole of the problem areas. Let them go back to beating their wives / children and living their beliefs no matter how bad we feel they are. But again that will never happen with the modern caring social media / aid agencies / tree hugger types we have in the world. Personally I could not give a darn if some idiot in another country 1000's miles away lives or treats people he lives with if he won't listen to reason or wants to cut your throat if you try.

Whilst we are at it, ban all the charity adverts on TV and annex the whole trouble area turning a blind eye until they starve / kill themselves through stupidity. Who knows, it may help them.
 
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Yup people are fed up with it. Once / twice these things happen will get the usual suspects shouting kick them all out. But after 10 years of it and it happening 2 or 3 times a year even the more moderate folks, including me, starts to get fed up with it and joins the call for something to be done. If that upsets some tree huggers then so be it, but enough is enough.

The police forces in the countries know who "most" of these people are, they just don't have the resources to watch them 24/7 and they should not have to. Thats why suddenly you get all the raids and arrests AFTER the event.

Round the buggers up and drop them back to where they belong in ISIS territory to face their god. Lock down the borders to all, including aid agencies and give them an ultimatum, cease or die because we have had enough. Sure there will be innocents, there always is, but this is war if they don't back down and cease. Their choice, at least I would give them a choice, many others wouldn't.

So lets hear all the responses now from the greater GD about how bad a man I am for thinking this.

Well said.
 

7.1% for lethal injections and it's going back to 1890 where I doubt they were that concerned, not saying that's acceptable but it's pretty low.

I think after being tried and convicted of a serious crime that's more acceptable then taking them out into the street and hacking their head off for something they may not have done.

They still kill people for witchcraft, it's 2016 not the middle ages.
 
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Some one else posted it earlier. It has not surprisingly been ignored by a number of posters on here.

Err it's even worse that they are locals. So despite all the opportunity's to get a head in life that Belgium has offered them. They still turned to radical Islam and targeted their own people :(
 
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