Soldato
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West's fault!
Two explosions at Brussels airport
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How about addressing points rather than resorting to sixth form insults?
Why are they our responsibility? They were born here - why don't they get along like the rest of us? What makes them different?
Economic background? Nope, some of these folks seem to come from quite wealthy families.
Race? Nope, we see Hindu's, Sikhs, Christians and Buddhists doing just fine who share the same races.
The only thing they all have in common? Islam.
They are their own responsibility, no one owes them anything. They've been provided the access to everything that modern western civilisation offers, free education, free health care, and personal freedoms that people in nations elsewhere in the world can only dream off.
If they don't integrate that's entirely the fault of their own upbringing and culture.
Total ********.
Society didn't fail them, their parents failed them.
'Society failed to help' / 'The West hasn't done enough '
A trend that seems to be used as an excuse everytime.
Take a responsibility for your family and offspring and stop shunting the blame onto others.
strange that... also we intervened in Bosnia and Kosovo putting us in direct opposition to the Serbs... yet Orthodox Christians didn't start suicide bombings in European cities as a result of that Western intervention
after the Falklands war we, surprisingly, didn't see any Catholics blowing themselves up in response to our intervention
I don't recall anyone kicking off after intervention in Sierra Leone either
So what if they have Islam in common? What do you propose? Ban Islam? Execute Muslims? Perhaps a ham eating test at the borders? Oh, I know! The ham test + sterilisation and then they can come in. How's that?
Islam, along with its extremist ideologies, exists and it will continue to exist for a long time. The only thing that we can do about it is to prevent these young people to join the extremists by educating them, giving them alternatives.
Each individual is obviously responsible for their choices. Society needs to do more so that the choice to mass murder becomes either inaccessible or highly unlikely to manifest itself.
Why don't we just do what we did with the last harmful ideology that reared it's ugly head? Nazism is a crime in many countries...
Sorry, but you know you shouldn't need to educate people that mass murder is the answer right?
In other words, ban Islam.
It was the course taken for another harmful belief so why not?
I said give them choices. No one dreams to be a mass murderer when they grow up. If they had had more choices earlier in their lives, most of them would not have blown themselves up.
Do you actually believe what you are typing ?
When i was young and unhappy, the first thing that sprung into my head was not mass murder or bombing the society around me.
The individual is responsible, and that stems from their upbringing.
For every poster like you that diverts the blame, you create an excuse for the next 'unhappy' suicide bomber.
They have the same choices as we all do. As I've already said other people in similar economic and racial situations don't make these choices. Just people who follow one faith.
Soldato
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You weren't really making points, just assereting what you reckon, but ok.
Children of Muslim immigrants, and there are likely to be a few million more of them in the coming years when the recent arrivals start procreating (maybe even consensually) and programming their kids with Islam.
Baseless assertion.
This is true, but people are finally starting to wake up.
What about all the other cultures? Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Orientals, Scandinavians, Americans etc?
We can't save everyone in the world who has a lower standard of living than us, and it's been established that most are not refugees but chancers trying to game the system.
Choices? There's no shortage of choices in the West! Wider society can not be held responsible for individuals failing to make the most of what opportunities we offer them.
The suggestion is so insane that an answer is impossible to elaborate. I suggest you first educate yourself on:
- history
- geography
- religions
- cultural influence
- psychology
And then find the answer yourself.
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