Two explosions at Brussels airport

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Moses said:
I'm pointing out that we can help prevent it. It's a simple concept... I'm struggling to see how you seem incapable of grasping what I'm saying :o.
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Not once did you suggest ' how to prevent it ' ?

Which begs my question, and previous post - Why should they get any extra help than others in the 'poverty/my life sucks' bracket that the UK has ( but doesn't resort to bombing people out of frustration ).
 
Moses said:
I did suggest how to help prevent it - by helping prevent the environment in which people are more likely to embrace the path which leads to becoming a terrorist... by helping people out of, or stopping people getting into, poverty cycles/sink hole estates with zero prospects and no hope, etc. How's that not suggesting how to help prevent it? :confused:
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Some of these people are well educated and come from stable homes.
 
OldCoals said:
Some of these people are well educated and come from stable homes.
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I think this is key.

There are also annecodotal middle class white British people who have been converted.

End of the day there highly influential salafist "teachers" a.k.a morons preying on disenfranchised people.

We need more quilliam and Faisal Saeed Al Mutar's to flood those markets.

Poor people / "disenfranchised" people aren't the issue (we can try to reduce them as a general policy, but will never rid of all of them in the name of anti-terror), it's the people who prey on them....
 
Moses said:
I did suggest how to help prevent it - by helping prevent the environment in which people are more likely to embrace the path which leads to becoming a terrorist... by helping people out of, or stopping people getting into, poverty cycles/sink hole estates with zero prospects and no hope, etc. How's that not suggesting how to help prevent it? :confused:
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And what gives the Muslim communities preferencial treatment over numorous non-Muslim UK/EU deprived areas ?

The unemployed/minimum wage/looking for a better life people of the UK who live in 'sink hole estates' aren't bombing people as a resort.

Yes, everyone wants better - But the rational accept that you cannot demand it on a plate.

Your suggestion is just bowing down to violence.
 
Moses said:
It was a choice, but can't you see how choices for people living in sink estates with no hope and purpose are limited, and how their circumstances can used to manipulate/take advantage of them, leading them down the path of radicalisation? That's not apologising for terrorists, or saying it's not their fault... it's just understanding some of the reasons behind why people are radicalised and choose terrorism... and understanding that is part of the solution.
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The two arrested in the uk planning to shoot police men where a doctor and a physicist.


How does that fit into your logic?
 
Moses said:
I've said the things I mentioned are some of the reasons and ones we can combat. I didn't say it covers everyone who becomes a terrorist :confused:.
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So we can help combat the problem by pouring money into these areas to deter these people from making 'the wrong choice'.

A 'wrong choice' that most sane people would not resort to, but given that Islam is involved it is justified to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Sounds very much like caving into terrorism and paying blood money.
 
I wonder how many attacks will occur prior to the referendum, as it could make or break the undecided vote.

I also wonder if the EU will just end up pushing the military on the streets at some point in the next decade (mind you France seems to have theirs out daily seemingly), as it seems increasingly likely with the encroaching far-righters.
 
We have had poor and underprivileged minorities for years, we are now importing a large number of people to add to this pool.

Would your average UK unemployed "Joe" be radicalised by Islamic extremists, pretty much never I would imagine.

Would a newly imported Muslim immigrant from Syria who has seen his country torn apart and who now realises that living in UK isn't all it's cracked up to be more susceptible, I would say that is much more probable.

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I also wonder if the EU will just end up pushing the military on the streets at some point in the next decade (mind you France seems to have theirs out daily seemingly), as it seems increasingly likely with the encroaching far-righters.
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I went to Antwerp a couple of weeks ago, we noticed the army was deployed to the streets already, I mentioned it to a colleague.

HEADRAT
 
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Waaa waaaa Muslims waaaa waaa!

Plenty of moaning in this thread from the keyboard warriors but zero proposed solutions other than insane ideas such as banning Islam.
 
Zethor said:
Waaa waaaa Muslims waaaa waaa!

Plenty of moaning in this thread from the keyboard warriors but zero proposed solutions other than insane ideas such as banning Islam.
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No more insane than the cry for 'doing more to help these poor, vulnerable individuals that are forced into terrorist acts because our Western society gave them no choice' attitude.

Oh, and banning Islam in non-Islamic countries would be a start.
 
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So many people going away this weekend. It is obvious that people will be concerned. We are going away the following weekend from Bristol airport and i am concerned for my family. Obviously we have to show these scumbags that they wont scare us away from 'living'.
 
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