Panama Papers

Information is slow to be coming out from these papers. If little or nothing more comes out it just goes to show the power these people have to suppress information.

"off shore accounts is nothing more than legalized tax fraud" -Bernie Sanders

Spot on
 
hurfdurf said:
The right wing media are not innocently enjoying him squirm, they are trying to damage him to please their EU exit task masters.
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Exactly. Focusing on Cameron also deflects attention away from solving the underlying issue of shutting down off shore tax havens and other tax loopholes. The Labour Party (and the right-wing press), are attempting to use this for political capital and nothing else. In the meantime the opportunity for some good to come out of this becomes more and more distant.

Cameron's tax avoidance is extreamly small scale compared with the wider problem. I would dare to say that a majority or large minority of people benifit from similar.

Once again, party politics descends into bickering about the unimportant.
 
So corbyn's tax return shows us he contributes nothing to UK coffers, only returns a portion of money that he has been given by the taxpayer back to him.

I'm not sure this was what he intended...
 
Dolph said:
It's not complicated, the only income he receives is from the taxpayer, therefore his net tax contribution is actually zero.

It's simple mathematics.
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It's good to see someone focus on the job that we're paying them to do.

I thought that it was more interesting to find out that the Telegraph pays Boris Johnson £5,750 for each of his weekly columns (2.5 hours work). There must be some seriously ****ed off Telegraph journalists right now.
 
I've been watching the news quite a bit over the last few days, but struggling to understand what all the fuss is about.

To me, david cameron has followed the rules and done nothing wrong. The issue, as far as I understand it, as that the people who are moaning are jealous he has a few grand in the bank.

What am I missing
 
Tunney said:
It's good to see someone focus on the job that we're paying them to do.
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Yea.....seems an odd thing to criticise him for...

"OMG, you monster, you don't have any private income apart from the salary we pay you for your work in public office"

Whereas I like my politicians to be focussed on the job in hand and not getting external income from sources that could potentially lead to a conflict of interests...
 
glen8 said:
I've been watching the news quite a bit over the last few days, but struggling to understand what all the fuss is about.

To me, david cameron has followed the rules and done nothing wrong. The issue, as far as I understand it, as that the people who are moaning are jealous he has a few grand in the bank.

What am I missing
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That's what I think, I've been in business and have been involved in the family business for over 40 years and I begrudge every single penny I pay in tax. I will take any step that reduces my liabilty £0.00 if I could.
 
wnb said:
That's what I think, I've been in business and have been involved in the family business for over 40 years and I begrudge every single penny I pay in tax. I will take any step that reduces my liabilty £0.00 if I could.
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Have you ever used the NHS?
 
glen8 said:
What am I missing
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His office handled the situation poorly. His name appeared on a list with El Chapo and Vladimir Putin's friends and his office said that it was a private matter. This rightly raised suspicions. It then took another three attempts for him to come clean, at which point it was clear that he'd done nothing wrong personally.

People are also upset that he's attacked other's tax avoidance as morally wrong after benefiting from offshore tax avoidance schemes himself.
 
Moses said:
And under David Cameron's leadership we've been getting more and more money by cracking down on avoidance and evasion.
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I agree, lets put the politics of it aside, more could be done.



He criticised someone who used extremely aggressive tax avoidance. Can't you see that's very different from someone inheriting money from someone who avoided some tax in a completely normal way? And I'm interested how you worded that... so this Blairmore Fund... are you conceding he didn't benefit from tax avoidance with regards to that? Or, if you think he did, how so?
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He benefited indirectly, however, I don't hold him responsible for the actions of his father.
 
glen8 said:
I've been watching the news quite a bit over the last few days, but struggling to understand what all the fuss is about.

To me, david cameron has followed the rules and done nothing wrong. The issue, as far as I understand it, as that the people who are moaning are jealous he has a few grand in the bank.

What am I missing
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The issue for me is, the rules are wrong.

However, attacking Dave rather than the rules is a disservice, especially since he's done very little directly wrong imo.
 
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Moses said:
And I'm interested how you worded that... so this Blairmore Fund... are you conceding he didn't benefit from tax avoidance with regards to that? Or, if you think he did, how so?
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It's pretty clear that he didn't directly avoid tax in regards to the Blairmore Fund even if its structure makes tax avoidance easier. At the same time it's pretty clear that his dad was involved in aggressive tax avoidance and Cameron benefited from that in the past.
 
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