Poll: Doctors strike tomorrow, do you support it?

Junior Doctor's Strike, do you support it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 438 59.4%

  • No

    Votes: 299 40.6%
  • Total voters
    737
Minstadave said:
It's still on the table - although people are reluctant as we've all got mortgages to pay.

I think the BMA will probably escalate one more strike before mass resignation.
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I imagine doctors are in a VERY strong position, especially if they are willing to move. Not ideal of course if people are settled, but again, it would put the government in a very very bad position, and quite a few people would be echoing Dennis Skinners speech of yesterday ;)
 
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theNude said:
As it stands my basic wage is barely 20k and this is after 3 years at uni.

I also have to work out of hours and weekend most weeks as we provide a 7 day service already covering shifts up to 16hrs long.
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Awwww, so what? You didn't know the pay and hours before you decided to train and go in the profession?

Granted I get some additional pay
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Ahh, you mean 40-60% (or more) isn't it? So you are just being disingenuous quoting your basic pay.

As long as you guys are happy with the fact that people are going to die in the short term for the debated long term gain (of your pay and conditions), then fine, go for it.
 
A little unfair Freakbro IMO. Junior doctors are just the tip of the iceberg here, many more people will die once the government have destroyed the NHS and privatised everything.
 
Not really happy with the options given. I want to see large changes made to how the NHS is run throughout the week, including admin staff/technicians/specialists etc etc etc. Not just the targeting of Junior Doctors.
 
Another Union trying to overrule the mandate of a democratically elected government. If these were bin men, hmrc staff or just random civil servants everyone here would be telling them to get back to work because they already get paid enough. Because it's doctors they are somehow special and somehow better than everyone else. Surely such noble, selfless creatures can't be interested in worldly goods? The evil government surely can't have the best interests of taxpayers at heart can they? No! The evil government is simply looking to teach those saintly doctors a lesson for their impertinence!

If the government gives in here, every other group in the NHS will do the same thing when the opportunity arises. I doubt most people will be too happy to see 3p on their income tax to pay for exactly the same service they had beforehand, but with all NHS staff on a higher wage or with a changed working pattern that means more staff are needed to provide the same cover.
 
Pay is definitely part of it. In the not wanting to be paid less.

It's also very obviously things like this. The NHS is failing. People WILL come to harm and a select few WILL make huge amounts of money.

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theNude said:
As it stands my basic wage is barely 20k and this is after 3 years at uni.

Granted I get some additional pay for this which means I can afford to take on this role.
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Freakbro said:
Ahh, you mean 40-60% (or more) isn't it? So you are just being disingenuous quoting your basic pay.
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Quite.....

"The starting salary for a junior doctor is currently just under £23,000 a year, but with extra payments for things such as unsociable hours, this can quite easily top £30,000."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34775980
 
Everything will be fine today from an emergency perspective. The consultants and nurses will keep things ticking over.

I support the doctors, and I am genuinely surprised that Jeremy Hunt is still in a job. His handling and negotiation of this contract has been awful.
 
tres said:
Pay is definitely part of it. In the not wanting to be paid less.

It's also very obviously things like this. The NHS is failing. People WILL come to harm and a select few WILL make huge amounts of money.

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Both sides could do that.....

Doctor Patel is currently rota'd to work Monday to Friday from 12pm to 7pm. Currently if she hangs around for 2 extra hours after her shift she can earn 3 hours more pay. If she come in on a Sunday for just 4 hours she can get paid for up to 8.

But the government want to change the times her premium rates kick in, meaning she won't earn as much for working longer hours. Her options....

1) Accept this is 2016 and the idea of getting up to double time for working anything outside the classic mon-fri 9-5 is a relic of the past and sign the contract.

2) Sign the contract and just stop doing the extra hours, meaning she is less tired, patient safety is increased.

3) Stamp her feet, go on strike and pretend the issue is about working longer hours and privatizing the NHS
 
estebanrey said:
You mat firmly believe something but with no real evidence why would you support something passing itself off as fact.
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The entire thing is conjecture and/or claims made by one side. Much like the claims being made by Mr Hunt. Given the history of the government it's really not a huge leap of logic but either way you'd be quite naive to assume anything said is gospel.

I fully support the junior doctors and I sincerely hope the government loses this fight.
 
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