Yes they did exactly that.
Manchester Police forced to apologise for "Racial Stereotyping" during mock attack
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Yes they did exactly that.
Yes we did to make it authentic, usually followed by "I know where you live". However, even the IRA weren't stupid enough to blow themselves up (except when it was an own goal).
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On the one had I agree, but on the other hand if it's a relevant detail in the real world then it's a relevant detail to include in training scenarios too.
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Problem is Allahu Akbar is about as useful to the operation or as relevant as an IRA-actor shouting 'POTATOES!'. It's not terrorist-specific, and for those who seem to think it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir
Are people suggesting that if the actor hadn't shouted Allahu Akbar then the Manchester Met would be in any way ill prepared for a terrorist attack?
Are people suggesting that if the actor hadn't shouted Allahu Akbar then the Manchester Met would be in any way ill prepared for a terrorist attack?
Exactly, it might have had a useful purpose, if they asked the people involved to react as they would be calling an emergency number then they may have been asked what happened, it might be good to know how many heard what he shouted or were able to report it accurately.
The majority of Islamic terrorist attacks I've heard of have involved the terrorists shouting "Allahu Akbar" moments before blowing themselves up or shooting people. Perfectly reasonable to recreate what actually happens in real life for a training exercise.
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Lol, you posted a link to a few historical events from the time when Christianity was very violent. I posted a link to hundreds of recent islamist terrorist attacks that seem to be increasing in number year by year. That was one hell of a failure of a counter
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lol.
well firstly it has nothing to do with race and secondly in training exercises they try to make things as realistic as possible, since terrorists do shout that on occasions then the guy playing the part of the suicide bomber shouting that is just playing his role
presumably some of the civilians were playing casualties and screaming out as though they're in pain too, it is all just part of the exercise, making it seem real
as far as a suicide bombing is concerned the attacker is pretty likely to be an islamist
having said that you're never going to get things too realistic - I've had training exercises where some area of wales has been deemed to be a small Latin American country... though triggering an ambush when a car pulls up and some ginger haired person playing a leftist guerrilla gets out an exclaims 'hey gringo' just becomes comical... half of us were shooting at him the other half couldn't stop laughing
presumably some of the civilians were playing casualties and screaming out as though they're in pain too, it is all just part of the exercise, making it seem real
as far as a suicide bombing is concerned the attacker is pretty likely to be an islamist
having said that you're never going to get things too realistic - I've had training exercises where some area of wales has been deemed to be a small Latin American country... though triggering an ambush when a car pulls up and some ginger haired person playing a leftist guerrilla gets out an exclaims 'hey gringo' just becomes comical... half of us were shooting at him the other half couldn't stop laughing
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Oh yeah all those IRA suicide bombers
Not sure of your point, there were plenty of IRA bombers, I'm sure them not being suicide ones made no difference to the victims
Well, in fact you can make it up, as seems to be the case in the German stabbing....so look, attacks do happen without shouting Allahu Ackbar
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I guess you haven't seen the revised story that he is a German national with drug and mental health problems who apparently didn't shout that put and has nothing to do with Islam and is not from a migrant background....
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These mock attacks should be as realistic as possible, therefore we can place ourselves in a better position to cope with these potential attacks.
Manchester police obviously feel that the level of threat is enough that such research is appropriate. I fully support them all the way with this and future research.