Evil Geniuses Announces AMD Sponsorship

[Stanners]

RTM is broken. I used it once when someone made an insulting post. Nothing came of it. Never have and never will bother again.

No point getting worked up about anything really. Just a bit of banter I suppose in the end

It is not broken, It was maybe decided what you had RTM'ed did now warrant any action.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Not sure, easy answer if you can not debate a point maybe?. Some use this, some use Bridging etc. as a tactic.

Well,I think it is something that needs to be tackled. As in my previous amended post,any evidence that shows AMD or Nvidia is having anonymous astroturfers here or in the US is a criminal offence and any evidence needs to sent to trading standards. It is serious.

Now,if it is just a personal attack,the posters probably need a good dose of reality to stop being so petty,IMHO OFC.

Otherwise it will be like some US forums,where people just started calling each other paid shills all the time and forum cohesion got even worse.

 

[Troezar]

EVE is famous for the undercover opps from the opposition,especially with the secret agent which destroyed a whole faction!!

Bingo. I started playing in 2003, seems a looong time ago now! I was thinking of Istvaan Shogaatsu and the GHSC. Great game but really is a full time job...

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Shame on us? I'm actually a pretty big fan of AMD and have positive expectations of Zen and Polaris both. But if you think that over-enthusiastic assertions that Zen is going to be "match Skylake at least" are a good thing for AMD, they aren't. They lead to exaggerated expectations followed by disappointment. Plus there's just honesty to consider. I don't think AMD would even want such misinformation going around.

And it is the decent thing to do to declare any interests you have up front. It doesn't mean you're biased or wrong to have an interest, but it is the right thing to do to be open about this within reason if asked. You shouldn't blame others if an interest is unearthed.

Actually he was basing it on what John Taylor from AMD said in this article:

http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-n...ll-favourably-compete-with-intel-skylake.html

I posted it in the Zen thread a few days ago.

John has been at AMD since 2006 so I was somewhat stunned when he said with its 7th generation Zen processors (CPU and APU) and new Radeon graphics processors (GPU) that it had finally caught up to, or surpassed Intel’s Skylake offerings. “Zen will compete with Intel on performance, power and specifications – not just price,” he said.

So that is AMD PR raising expectations - they have a patchy track record like any PR so obviously we need to wait until reviews are out to see what actual performance is like.

I expected it more to be like IB level(hopefully) and probably in the mid 3GHZ range for clockspeeds.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Bingo. I started playing in 2003, seems a looong time ago now! I was thinking of Istvaan Shogaatsu and the GHSC. Great game but really is a full time job...

Speadsheet simulator!!

 

[layte]

OP is not employed either directly or via proxy by AMD (as far as we know), he just happens to have a £40k financial stake in them. It's perfectly valid for people to question his motives behind all the glowing AMD and negative Intel/NV stuff he posts given he stands to benefit directly.

I'd love to know who else is in the same boat here, I have my suspicions.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

OP is not employed either directly or via proxy by AMD (as far as we know), he just happens to have a £40k financial stake in them. It's perfectly valid for people to question his motives behind all the glowing AMD and negative Intel/NV stuff he posts given he stands to benefit directly.

I'd love to know who else is in the same boat here, I have my suspicions.

Anybody could have financial investments in any company,if you go that way,that means somebody could call you out if you post information which is against a company they prefer or want to spend money with.

What if people accused you of being a Nvidia employee or having financial ties with Nvidia,if you posted anything which showed AMD in a negative way and Nvidia in a positive way. It goes both ways.

Trying to promote a culture of fear just because somebody has a different viewpoint is the same as what was done in the mccarthy witch hunts decades ago. It smacks of people so desperate that they don't seem to understand another person might have a totally different viewpoint to you.

This is happening more and more on this forum and it needs to be tackled.

Look at Anandtech forum - the graphics part devolved into people calling each other paid shills,stock pumpers,shorters,etc. The mods got fed up. They split the forum.

Work in science dude,and then see people arguing at conferences with diametrically opposed viewpoints. It happens. Its real life. Argue and then deal with it.

Seriously 99% of the people here have never met you or anybody else in this forum - it is the internet.

 

[Troezar]

Speadsheet simulator!!

Lol it can be if you're a trader but I've never played anything like it for the rush when you think they might catch and kill you. Not a relaxing game!

 

[D.P.]

I have no actual idea why this in the graphics sub forum to be honest?

It shoudln't be

 

[D.P.]

OP is not employed either directly or via proxy by AMD (as far as we know), he just happens to have a £40k financial stake in them. It's perfectly valid for people to question his motives behind all the glowing AMD and negative Intel/NV stuff he posts given he stands to benefit directly.

I'd love to know who else is in the same boat here, I have my suspicions.

Pretty sure DM openly admitted to having AMD shares (at least at one point).

I don' knowingly have shares in with nvidia or AMD but my pension pot includes lots of different managed funds from Vanguard and the like.

 

[layte]

Anybody could have financial investments in any company,if you go that way,that means somebody could call you out if you post information which is against a company they prefer or want to spend money with.

What if people accused you of being a Nvidia employee or having financial ties with Nvidia,if you posted anything which showed AMD in a negative way and Nvidia in a positive way. It goes both ways.

Trying to promote a culture of fear just because somebody has a different viewpoint is the same as what was done in the mccarthy witch hunts decades ago.

Seriously 99% of the people here have never met you or anybody else in this forum - it is the internet.

Did you even click the link to the HDUK post before putting your back seat modding hat on?

You have somebody with the exact same username and abrasive posting style going on about his £40k AMD investment. That's enough to call into question OP's impartiality.

 

[layte]

Pretty sure DM openly admitted to having AMD shares (at least at one point).

I don' knowingly have shares in with nvidia or AMD but my pension pot includes lots of different managed funds from Vanguard and the like.

Yea I remember that. Just one of the reasons I file his rants in the bin.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Did you even click the link to the HDUK post before putting your back seat modding hat on?

You have somebody with the exact same username and abrasive posting style going on about his £40k AMD investment. That's enough to call into question OP's impartiality.

And how do I know what investments you have? This is the issue - I have been called out by people accusing me of being some AMD employee. For what?? Saying Polaris 10 would be decent value if it was R9 390X level performance at £175 to £200. That was the reason.

All the people making the accusations sit under a cloak of anonymity - we have no clue who they are,or what their motives are??

Let's look at what you said:

all the glowing AMD and negative Intel/NV stuff he posts given he stands to benefit directly.

I'd love to know who else is in the same boat here, I have my suspicions.

So,you have basically said that since he posts pro-AMD stuff he is suspect.

So,are you suspicions meaning anybody who posts anything postive about AMD are also suspect??

So,what about all the people,who post pro-Nvidia stuff and anti-AMD stuff??

How do we know whether they are financially invested in Nvidia??

You have no clue??

I have no clue about you either??

You have no clue about me??

I have never met you before,like over 99% of all members in this forum.

It irritates me since I have seen it happen multiple times - people calling others AMD employees or Nvidia employees,stock plumpers,etc.

Its been happening MORE and MORE on this forum.

This is not the first time.

If people have evidence for astroturfing then there is a specific forum to alert the mods about it with evidence.

This is the blasted internet - unless you have met somebody or there are well know,you have no clue what reasons people are posting for,whether genuine or non-genuine.

 

[layte]

No I've said because he likely has a financial investment he is suspect. This is beyond crying wolf because you don't like the message.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

And how do I know what investments you have? This is the issue - I have been called out by people accusing me of being some AMD employee. For what?? Saying Polaris 10 would be decent value if it was R9 390X level performance at £175 to £200. That was the reason.

All the people making the accusations sit under a cloak of anonymity - we have no clue who they are,or what their motives are??

Let's look at what you said:



So,you have basically said that since he posts pro-AMD stuff he is suspect.

So,are you suspicions meaning anybody who posts anything postive about AMD are also suspect??

So,what about all the people,who post pro-Nvidia stuff and anti-AMD stuff??

How do we know whether they are financially invested in Nvidia??

You have no clue??

I have no clue about you either??

You have no clue about me??

I have never met you before,like over 99% of all members in this forum.

It irritates me since I have seen it happen multiple times - people calling others AMD employees or Nvidia employees,stock plumpers,etc.

Its been happening MORE and MORE on this forum.

This is not the first time.

If people have evidence for astroturfing then there is a specific forum to alert the mods about it with evidence.

This is the blasted internet - unless you have met somebody or there are well know,you have no clue what reasons people are posting for,whether genuine or non-genuine.

No I've said because he likely has a financial investment he is suspect. This is beyond crying wolf because you don't like the message.

And how do any of us know,whether you or anybody else in the graphics subforum is doing the same?? You are crying wolf,since you don't seem to understand this is the internet and 99% of people to speak to you have never met.

You have no clue whether you should trust anybody or not.

Or are we going to go the way,that people who get sponsorships and game codes from AMD,Nvidia,Intel,are also suspect.

You said this too:

all the glowing AMD and negative Intel/NV stuff he posts given he stands to benefit directly.

I'd love to know who else is in the same boat here, I have my suspicions.

Who else,then??

I didn't see some of you question Foxeye when he made a baseless accusation against me??

 

[Gregster]

This thread doesn't really belong here. A bit of a pointless thread as well but hey, if it makes people happy, let it go I say

 

[Mauller]

When i read the title of this thread i was expecting to find something about a new 'Evil Genius' Game. I was then disappointed when i clicked the link.

 

[fs123]

LMAO,I love the stalking of the OP because he started a thread which some don't like - great childish personal attacks.

I wonder if the ones doing the attacks and stalking have invested in stocks and shares too - they have as much legitimacy as the OP and none of us know what they are up to either.

How about we have discussion without resorting to trying to accuse people all the time?

The Nvidia guys seem to appear like clockwork in any positive AMD thread. If Nvidia signs a deal then they are over the moon. Rather pathetic really. '

Positive news is positive. Who cares if someone has shares in a company or not. A post in a message board is not going to raise the share price

 

[Gregster]

The Nvidia guys seem to appear like clockwork in any positive AMD thread. If Nvidia signs a deal then they are over the moon. Rather pathetic really. '

Positive news is positive. Who cares if someone has shares in a company or not. A post in a message board is not going to raise the share price

To be honest, it is no different to shilling IMO. Look at NVidia when they used to send out "gifts" to shills and the uproar that ensued. It wouldn't be so bad but the OP is totally negative to anything that isn't AMD, so in this instance (and if it seems like I am picking on the OP, I am seriously not), it does come across as a monetary agenda. For reference, I have never checked up on the OP or suspected him of having that amount of shares (or any affiliation with AMD) and I do wish him good luck

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The Nvidia guys seem to appear like clockwork in any positive AMD thread. If Nvidia signs a deal then they are over the moon. Rather pathetic really. '

Positive news is positive. Who cares if someone has shares in a company or not. A post in a message board is not going to raise the share price

And we are seeing more and more people being accused of being paid shills,stock plumpers,etc especially if the news is not something they like.

It is a common tactic which used to be used on US forums.

Yet,nobody is questioning the legitimacy of the accusers too??

Anonymous users on the internet accusing other anonymous users. The irony is not lost on me.