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Stay with 980 Ti or upgrade to 1080 ?

easyrider said:
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That's a water-cooled FE card with a single power connector


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why can't you just admit that the 1080 is a dud release? It's not pascal, its small Maxwell, it get too hot, its not got remotely good overlcoking headroom, it's got gimped memory. It's just a Nvidia overclocked maxwell card. All of that and it's £630 LOL.


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I'm also in a difficult situation.

I currently have a SLI 980M laptop (non-optimus with 4910MQ and 32GB RAM) and have ordered a Oculus CV1 (coming August).

I very much doubt the GPU's will be up to it for the CV1 so am looking to order a small form factor pc (probably from Scan).

I have the following options: -

1) Order a current build with either 2 980ti's or 1 Titan X (when/if prices drop for the GPU's following 1080 release) and upgrade once 1080ti's are released

2) Order a build soon with 1 or 2 1080 FE (unlikely)

3) Do nothing yet and wait until maybe EVGA release a SC version of the 1080 (hopefully before August)

I play using DP to 58" LCD Panasonic TV

Any advice would be much appreciated

Thanks
 
beany_bot said:
why can't you just admit that the 1080 is a dud release? It's not pascal, its small Maxwell, it get too hot, its not got remotely good overlcoking headroom, it's got gimped memory. It's just a Nvidia overclocked maxwell card. All of that and it's £630 LOL.


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Because the FE is rubbish.

But I'll wait for the factory overclocked cherry picked cards to arrive before I condemn them.
 
The price is what makes the 1080 so insane. At £500 it would be golden, but the 980Ti was always priced too high IMO, and stayed that high for so long, such that Nvidia probably felt they HAD to bring out a card at this price point so as to not make the 970/980/980Ti utterly redundant. Add to that the FE pricing madness for what is basically a gimped throttle happy card that won't OC very well, and you have something rather pathetic. However, that "something rather pathetic" has already sold out by the boat load and will net Nvidia an absolute fortune. Just goes to show they really can do whatever the hell they want and people will lap it up! The AIB custom cards will make or break this generation I reckon, so I wait to see what they deliver and at what price. My next big concern though is what now happens with the 1070... :rolleyes:
 
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There's enough people willing to pay idiot tax on these to sell out the first batch.

Those who wait will be rewarded as the price will come down. It is artificially high on launch as nvidia are milking the situation.

At the end of the day, it is up to the individual how he/she spends their money, but I am pretty gobsmacked by the sheer number of people willing to pay over £600 just so they can say they have the latest shiny toy for 6 months :p
 
IvanDobskey said:
There's enough people willing to pay idiot tax on these to sell out the first batch.

Those who wait will be rewarded as the price will come down. It is artificially high on launch as nvidia are milking the situation.

At the end of the day, it is up to the individual how he/she spends their money, but I am pretty gobsmacked by the sheer number of people willing to pay over £600 just so they can say they have the latest shiny toy for 6 months :p
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I wont be buying a FE for 620 quid :p

I'll leave that to Gregster :p
 
At the current 1080 price point and performance, it is not a worthy upgrade from a 980ti. One would be better off buying a second 980ti to SLI and get a ton more performance for their money. If you have a 980ti currently, you'll be waiting till at least 1080ti or Vega to get a reasonable upgrade.
 
I think this says it all :)
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I'd say - if you have a GTX 980Ti and haven't OC'et it yet, then go do it now and your 1 year old card gains almost GTX 1080 stock performance.
 
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Darg said:
You just said that your 980ti hasn't even been maxed out by any games. Why on earth would you then consider needing to upgrade it? Seriously some people here have more money than sense.

Buy the card that you need, not the best one just so you can brag about it.
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B-b-but the whole point of this subforum is gfx card willy waving! :(
 
If you step a bit backwards, you'll see people who comment on the 980Ti price dropping to sub 200 are the ones who wants it to, not the ones who could really rationalise the drop lol

Btw guys, stop arguing w/c will bring out the 1080 potential, it brings up its price by around 100GBP as well, while on the other hand you can get a w/c block for 980Ti for around 40 now :)
 
Marine-RX179 said:
If people using their PC in the open without a case then yea :p

The FE struggle to maintain the boost clock beyond the the base clock at around 1600-ish once it is inside a case and game for more than 4-10 minutes :p
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You can always change the temperature threshold as a part of the GPU Boost tech ! I got 3x GTX 980Ti reference cards enclosed in a case and the hottest card gets 82°c with default fanspeed - around 47% fanspeed at max. I'm running all three 1000@1250MHz GPU base clock, Max boost clock 1455MHz, 1753@1945MHz VRAM - power limit and voltage set top max, and the temperature target set to 85°c

If they had set the GTX 1080 F.E temperature threshold to e.g 87°c (still safe), it probably would maintain a higher boost clock and it may not even hit 87°c.
 
deFiniLoGy said:
If you step a bit backwards, you'll see people who comment on the 980Ti price dropping to sub 200 are the ones who wants it to, not the ones who could really rationalise the drop lol

Btw guys, stop arguing w/c will bring out the 1080 potential, it brings up its price by around 100GBP as well, while on the other hand you can get a w/c block for 980Ti for around 40 now :)
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I think most people would like the 980ti to drop to £200 (other than current owners of course).

I was talking second hand price though, not brand new (can't see that ever happening).
 
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