Absolutely, it should be at least moderately
CII proposes husbands be allowed to ‘lightly beat’ defying wives
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Absolutely, it should be at least moderately
What, like this?
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66639000/jpg/_66639997_sinead-no one.jpg
Some of us have seen domestic abuse up close and honestly, can't see comments like that as acceptable. For all that people probably don't want to see the above, maybe it brings home what the jokes are actually about or highlights that in Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, someone can not only do the above, but do so legally and be open about it.
But I think the best way to bring reality of this home to some people is to show how it can apply to them, too:
Domestic violence affects women disproportionately, but there are plenty of "battered husbands" too. And whilst smaller in number, they find it a Hell of a lot harder to seek help or get sympathy. One of the quotes on an awareness campaign was "Dude, she's 5'2", how can she hurt you?" Which is the typical reaction an abused male partner expects and why they keep quiet about it.
And yeah, I did just respond to your casual joke with a lot of seriousness and heaviness. Sue me - it's a topic I care about that has affected my life.
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It's that silly saying poorly educated teenagers come out with to think they are being cool on the internet
"Expensive graphics card is expensive" rubbish
You don't have to say it twice
Yes, some of us have, my sister was beaten black and blue earlier this year by her **** of a b/f and after we all put a lot of effort into getting her out of that situation, she has just recently taken him back....and is bringing him to a family wedding I am attending today.
I have also been on the receiving end of violence in a relationship, and funilly enough she was only 5'2" and being 6'1" it's hard to only use enough force to defend yourself and not seriously hurt the person back, which I had no inclination to do.
*shrug* We all have different SOHs and deal with distressing events in different ways but this is a non-story as it is, anyone can propose anything, come back when it's passed in law and I'll stand by your side.
I have a client I have been consoling for a year now because her husband has terminal cancer, which has now rotted his brain and he has just been sectioned for turning extremely violent, beaten her and nearly killed their son. Then last week her mum went into a diabetic coma and her dog was run over and killed...at that point of the story I burst out laughing, and took the **** out of the situation, which might seem completely innappropriate to you, but you know what, she laughed too...and I think that was the first time she had laughed in months and she looked more relaxed after that than I had seen her in months.
My point being, don't discount humour as a method to deal with distress.
I don't want to sue you
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Yes, some of us have, my sister was beaten black and blue earlier this year by her **** of a b/f and after we all put a lot of effort into getting her out of that situation, she has just recently taken him back....and is bringing him to a family wedding I am attending today.
I have also been on the receiving end of violence in a relationship, and funilly enough she was only 5'2" and being 6'1" it's hard to only use enough force to defend yourself and not seriously hurt the person back, which I had no inclination to do.
*shrug* We all have different SOHs and deal with distressing events in different ways but this is a non-story as it is, anyone can propose anything, come back when it's passed in law and I'll stand by your side.
I have a client I have been consoling for a year now because her husband has terminal cancer, which has now rotted his brain and he has just been sectioned for turning extremely violent, beaten her and nearly killed their son. Then last week her mum went into a diabetic coma and her dog was run over and killed...at that point of the story I burst out laughing, and took the **** out of the situation, which might seem completely innappropriate to you, but you know what, she laughed too...and I think that was the first time she had laughed in months and she looked more relaxed after that than I had seen her in months.
My point being, don't discount humour as a method to deal with distress.
I don't want to sue you
Agree completely. It will be a sad day when you can't tell a joke for fear of offending anyone. The world would be a pretty dull place.
Being resentful never gets you anywhere
I'm, I don't agree with all of that. Did I capture the edit?
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Yes, some of us have, my sister was beaten black and blue earlier this year by her **** of a b/f and after we all put a lot of effort into getting her out of that situation, she has just recently taken him back....and is bringing him to a family wedding I am attending today.
I have also been on the receiving end of violence in a relationship, and funilly enough she was only 5'2" and being 6'1" it's hard to only use enough force to defend yourself and not seriously hurt the person back, which I had no inclination to do.
*shrug* We all have different SOHs and deal with distressing events in different ways but this is a non-story as it is, anyone can propose anything, come back when it's passed in law and I'll stand by your side.
I have a client I have been consoling for a year now because her husband has terminal cancer, which has now rotted his brain and he has just been sectioned for turning extremely violent, beaten her and nearly killed their son. Then last week her mum went into a diabetic coma and her dog was run over and killed...at that point of the story I burst out laughing, and took the **** out of the situation, which might seem completely innappropriate to you, but you know what, she laughed too...and I think that was the first time she had laughed in months and she looked more relaxed after that than I had seen her in months.
My point being, don't discount humour as a method to deal with distress.
I don't want to sue you
This makes some of your views on the EU thread more relevant. You're just pathetic.
You're letting your sisters beater attend a wedding? Wtf is wrong with you?
Lol, that's a shoe in to turn it to the EU referendum
You think it's my choice? How am I 'letting him' when it's not my wedding, I'm just a guest. I have argued till blue in the face he shouldn't be there, but what else should I do...cause a scene at the wedding, beat him up? Ruin the day for everyone? Don't be a nob, if we do any of those things it will isolate my sister even more under his control, so for her sake we are keeping her around us as much as possible and unfortunately that means having to tolerate his presence.
All we can do now is support her by actively being in her life and try to reduce the control he has over her
Lol, that's a shoe in to turn it to the EU referendum
You think it's my choice? How am I 'letting him' when it's not my wedding, I'm just a guest. I have argued till blue in the face he shouldn't be there, but what else should I do...cause a scene at the wedding, beat him up? Ruin the day for everyone? Don't be a nob, if we do any of those things it will isolate my sister even more under his control, so for her sake we are keeping her around us and unfortunately that means having to tolerate his presence.
All we can do now is support her by actively being in her life and try to reduce the control he has over her
Well...not to be an ass but you could have reported him to the police before now? Or...taken matters in to your own hands before now.
My sister had a violent partner. Some members of my family had a 'discussion' with him.
Even in the greatest nation on earth 'murica, the presidential nominee Hildog more than lightly beated her husband, she made him bleed!
The police were involved, they did nothing. It was the first time it had happened and yes as I said we all put in a lot of effort and got her out of the relationship and situation.
As far as I was aware it was all done and dusted (this was over christmas) until a fortnight ago when we found out the bombshell that she had taken him back and was coming to the wedding.
So like I say, we have to deal with today, then go back to getting him out of her life
Well..best of luck gritting your teeth on it.
She's a moron on two counts there. Firstly taking the muppet back and secondly ruining a large number of people's days by taking him there.
Just don't do something that'll land you in prison!
This is the bit that has been worrying me the most about today, since as usual at a wedding lots of alcohol will be involved, but thanks.
It's complicated, I agree with the first point, I'm dumbfounded, but the wedding bit is complicated... as all family matters are
Do my best
Anyway, I better go iron my shirt rather than procrastinate on here!
That was enough for me.
saw this currently trending on facebook
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1110571/name-protection-cii-bill-proposes-curbs-women/
this isn't ISIS or the Taliban... it is a constitutional body of the Pakistani government that is supposed to advise lawmakers - they've advocated quashing a women's protection law as 'unIslamic' and have comically proposed their own one which allows for light beatings under circumstances...
background on the council
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Islamic_Ideology
though seemingly they've managed to upset conservatives/traditionalists by not taking the more hardline approach to divorce
this again is pretty worrying, we're not talking about fanatics here just people with slightly conservative Islamic views who have an official role in shaping policy in a developing country
So, it is un-Islamic to NOT beat your women, ha ha ha, Islam, the people who believe in it and the middle east are a joke, some people on here will come up with their strange excuses for it though.
What about the poor men who have multiple wives? They must spend all day having to go to the trouble of beating them all, poor men, scum.
Must be the wests fault
Yes you are right but your usual wife beaters in this country are not doing it in the name of religion nor is it being considered to be lawful to beat your women in the UK\West.
So can we not compare laws\actions or wife beating in the ME to here because the two things are totally different.
Your never going to stop some ass hole in the west giving his wife etc a smack but we stop it being made lawful in the UK\West compared to the ME.
Yeah but Domestic abuse in our country probably also includes calling each other names, I can guarantee that a quarter of house holds in the UK don't have men beating their partners
Yes, some of us have, my sister was beaten black and blue earlier this year by her **** of a b/f and after we all put a lot of effort into getting her out of that situation, she has just recently taken him back....and is bringing him to a family wedding I am attending today.
I have also been on the receiving end of violence in a relationship, and funilly enough she was only 5'2" and being 6'1" it's hard to only use enough force to defend yourself and not seriously hurt the person back, which I had no inclination to do.
*shrug* We all have different SOHs and deal with distressing events in different ways but this is a non-story as it is, anyone can propose anything, come back when it's passed in law and I'll stand by your side.
I have a client I have been consoling for a year now because her husband has terminal cancer, which has now rotted his brain and he has just been sectioned for turning extremely violent, beaten her and nearly killed their son. Then last week her mum went into a diabetic coma and her dog was run over and killed...at that point of the story I burst out laughing, and took the **** out of the situation, which might seem completely innappropriate to you, but you know what, she laughed too...and I think that was the first time she had laughed in months and she looked more relaxed after that than I had seen her in months.
My point being, don't discount humour as a method to deal with distress.
I don't want to sue you
That really sounds awful, good to see that you are there to help\listen to her.
Why is he pathetic? Your response to him is pathetic.
I wish he and they would hurry up, they maybe busy giving out a few beating though, we will have to wait for their shifts to finish.
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Lol, that's a shoe in to turn it to the EU referendum
You think it's my choice? How am I 'letting him' when it's not my wedding, I'm just a guest. I have argued till blue in the face he shouldn't be there, but what else should I do...cause a scene at the wedding, beat him up? Ruin the day for everyone? Don't be a nob, if we do any of those things it will isolate my sister even more under his control, so for her sake we are keeping her around us as much as possible and unfortunately that means having to tolerate his presence.
All we can do now is support her by actively being in her life and try to reduce the control he has over her
No I'm Sorry but its just wrong. He just needs to know that if he turns up he's going to get the biggest kicking he's ever had... Then he wouldn't.
The idea of someone beating my sister (or brother) is just so far beyond the pale its not even funny......