Aero/Gains Thread

Geeking out on data now of course in Golden Cheetah.

SoliD has went almost a minute quicker than me over a 10 on slightly less watts whilst being 5kg heavier than me. You are out-aero'ing me massively!!

I like this TT nonsense. Course profile, road quality, gear, weather are all massive influences beyond how hard you can push the pedals. It's OCD heaven.
 
xdcx said:
Geeking out on data now of course in Golden Cheetah.

SoliD has went almost a minute quicker than me over a 10 on slightly less watts whilst being 5kg heavier than me. You are out-aero'ing me massively!!

I like this TT nonsense. Course profile, road quality, gear, weather are all massive influences beyond how hard you can push the pedals. It's OCD heaven.
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HAHA, I think I've got massive gains to be made too. Hoping to push under 22 this week, then more over coming weeks as power is made.

Luckily I have a cycling track over the road from me which our club are going to be using for aero testing for all us testers. Perfect non interrupted conditions to ensure accurate data.
 
xdcx said:
23:10 first ever time on a TT bike on the road :p I done 30mins on it on the turbo on Friday night, prepared as always me!
Lots of tweaks to make to position, was running my F4R's don't have anything any deeper or that yet. Looking at getting Fizik Tritone as my saddle is really horrible that came on the bike and also fancy a Kask Bambino maybe when I get paid :)
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Would have thought you'd have several minutes on the table there! How many watts was that? I've got 22mins off 317w ages ago on a crap course and I'm by no means aero. Would have thought I'd be able to get well under 22 on the road bike now.
 
Thomas. PLease. said:
Would have thought you'd have several minutes on the table there! How many watts was that? I've got 22mins off 317w ages ago on a crap course and I'm by no means aero. Would have thought I'd be able to get well under 22 on the road bike now.
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It's cool because if I get my position spot on, aero wheels, aero helmet and ride exactly like I did yesterday it could be potentially so much quicker and I like that there is so elements at play.

You are a powerhouse Thomas do you not fancy giving TT a proper go as well???
 
Looks like there is a big gap between your road bike and TT power - that will narrow as you adapt to the new position. I'd also actually say you're pretty aero based on that power for that time. I was doing short 23s last season off about 270w, and I know Scottish courses are generally very slow. Less than 10 people have done 19s up there AFAIK.
 
So I went for a proper go at a 3-lap challenge this morning and managed to beat my PB by 30 seconds - it was bloody hard work!

Interestingly, I was 22W down on my previous best but 30s quicker. Does that mean I'm weaker but more aero?:eek::confused::o
 
Probably a combo of quick conditions and potential aero. Park will likely be pretty rapid later this evening.

@xdcxdx I'm still a way off being competitive for most flat 10s. I should be able to do c.360w now but would want a bit more to be at the sharp end given my size. My club mate Rob is regularly winning TTs but can do 400w for a 10! I don't have a TT bike anymore but if I see a decent increase in watts this year may invest in one again. Sounds a bit silly, but I can't really be arsed when I know I'm not going to be troubling the top positions at the moment!
 
Thomas. PLease. said:
Probably a combo of quick conditions and potential aero. Park will likely be pretty rapid later this evening.

@xdcxdx I'm still a way off being competitive for most flat 10s. I should be able to do c.360w now but would want a bit more to be at the sharp end given my size. My club mate Rob is regularly winning TTs but can do 400w for a 10! I don't have a TT bike anymore but if I see a decent increase in watts this year may invest in one again. Sounds a bit silly, but I can't really be arsed when I know I'm not going to be troubling the top positions at the moment!
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My clubmate is only doing about 340W for a 10 and is nailing a lot of local opens not massively far off Rob considering the power difference. Generally under 20 on the A3 10 week in week out. All from getting mega aero. You'd be flying with 360 and the right position.
 
Shamrock said:
So I went for a proper go at a 3-lap challenge this morning and managed to beat my PB by 30 seconds - it was bloody hard work!

Interestingly, I was 22W down on my previous best but 30s quicker. Does that mean I'm weaker but more aero?:eek::confused::o
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Just did 15:16 for 369w, not as quick an evening as expected. PB still. I blame the high pressure :p
 
First sub 22 ride on the local course on a fairly floaty evening off about 291w. Missed out on the event win by about 15 seconds but could not have gone harder.

New skinsuit finally arrives this week so hopefully some more gains coming there. :) Really need to do some aero testing but need the wind to drop off for a bit.
 
One More Solo said:
First sub 22 ride on the local course on a fairly floaty evening off about 291w. Missed out on the event win by about 15 seconds but could not have gone harder.

New skinsuit finally arrives this week so hopefully some more gains coming there. :) Really need to do some aero testing but need the wind to drop off for a bit.
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Great work! What time did you do Saturday out of interest? My power wasn't as high as I hoped, but still happy enough. Beat my club mate by 50 seconds who had been beating me recently, but course more suited to me than him due to the lumps. My skinsuit should be turning up end of this week/early next. Hoping to go sub 22 tomorrow evening, conditions looking ideal.
 
SoliD said:
Great work! What time did you do Saturday out of interest? My power wasn't as high as I hoped, but still happy enough. Beat my club mate by 50 seconds who had been beating me recently, but course more suited to me than him due to the lumps. My skinsuit should be turning up end of this week/early next. Hoping to go sub 22 tomorrow evening, conditions looking ideal.
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I did 40:17.05, I'd hoped for sub 40 but that was based on the course being the length they said! I reckon you'd save a good chunk of time just by knowing the course, always the way with the lumpier ones.

Good TT conditions this week, warm and low wind. :)
 
One More Solo said:
I did 40:17.05, I'd hoped for sub 40 but that was based on the course being the length they said! I reckon you'd save a good chunk of time just by knowing the course, always the way with the lumpier ones.

Good TT conditions this week, warm and low wind. :)
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What sort of power was that? Good time, top 100 I take?
 
OK, here I am in all my terrible position glory looking for advice and input on sorting it out please dudes :)

Saddle has been sacked as it was way too long, replaced it with a Tritone 5.5 now which even after 30mins on turbo is insanely better! I have aligned it so the front of the saddle is approx 5cm back from centre point of BB. I also lowered my saddle height about 2mm as this saddle is a little taller. Saddle on the front 2/3's is completely level, may experiment with tilting it forward ever so slightly?

I have also removed the remaining 10mm spacer so my stem is now as low as it can go (2x10mm and 1x5mm now gone). This should bring my front down a bit more and stretch me out a little.

I have also moved my extensions out about 10mm more as my hands were too far forward on them towards shifters.

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Not sure I can comment on your position since I'm no expert, but you look a bit hunched up? You have a long torso!

Also, I think you need a pointy hat.:D
 
Shamrock said:
Not sure I can comment on your position since I'm no expert, but you look a bit hunched up? You have a long torso!

Also, I think you need a pointy hat.:D
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Yeah, short legs and long torso :( I am defo hunched like you say, hence lowering front and stretching out via moving extensions forward and new saddle back to flatten out.

I am getting a Bambino but can't afford it this month so will need to wait until I get paid :) It was either new saddle or lid and I decided my backside was more important than my head :p
 
xdcx said:
I am getting a Bambino
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I've got a Bambino. I think I've got the old one gen one though with super crappy visor magnets! Had to buy some off ebay to make the visor more secure.

I got a short tail style TT helmet because I can be a bit like Froomey and try to chew my stem instead of having a still head.:D

Have you also considered the Lazer Wasp Air?
 
xdcx said:
Yeah, short legs and long torso :( I am defo hunched like you say, hence lowering front and stretching out via moving extensions forward and new saddle back to flatten out.
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I suffer this too and probably have similar ish sort of look. (and long arms) I'm going to try out full superman and get my arms out as long as possible, but need to find some longer extensions as mine are at the maximum limit.
 
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