With illegally possessed guns, yes of course that's a problem.
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With illegally possessed guns, yes of course that's a problem.
Yeah but if more good people shot bad people it would be better.
That's not the same as IS being responsible.
Yes, and it was clearly premeditated. What's not clear is whether or not he was acting on behalf of an Islamic terrorist group.
What about the people that get killed with legally owned guns? Is that not a problem because it is their constitutional right?
The details will start surfacing soon but given his known history and that he was alone I think it is safe to conclude this is not an attack organised by or with the help of ISIS or any other terrorist group. It's probably more of a Breivik style attack.
A knife can absolutely be a mass killing weapon. Look at the 2014 Kunming attack. Especially with a soft target. There are enough reports of ISIS marching dozens of civilians and Iraqi/Syrian military to be slaughtered with knives to know that.
My point is that this guy had a determination to kill a lot of people and he would have done it one way or another... with a knife, bomb, poisoning the water supply in the club etc. Let's say he 'only' killed 10 people with a knife instead - where does the blame lie then? Do we talk about banning knives? Banning guns is obviously just a band aid fix to a bigger problem.
Why are you obsessing over the term when the meaning is clear? A total ban on automatic weapons.
No of course it's a problem but 3% of crimes in the US involving guns are legally owned guns. Legal gun owners are punished in response to gang violence, organised crime and that sort of thing.
It's like laws on carrying knives over here. I can't carry a swiss army knife or a screwdriver in public because kids in cities can't stop stabbing eachother, total overreaction.
Automatic weapons already require a special permit from the federal government and are not widely available, get your facts straight if you're going to take a position on this.
Do you have any reference to that 3% figure?
The Kunming attack was 8 people with knives and killed 29 people.
But in answer to you question, yes 10 is far less than 50.
No one isn't blaming the guy himself. Ultimately he is the murderer. But we shouldn't make it easy for such people to achieve their goals, when there is little to no reason why AR-15s should be in the hands of civilians.
No, again you are wrong. Some states require you to register ownership with them but it is not nationwide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state
Because gun controls are almost non existent in America.
