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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

Geck0 said:
The outdated drivers would actually be a damn clever thing to do - ship the cards with nerfed drivers, just enough to get it running and then have to DL an update when NDA expires. Stops all the leaks giving the game away and the competition thinks they know what hand you are playing.

What's a DVD worth? 5 cents each in bulk?
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Wow some people are in denial... It's a 480, not a 490 or 490x. It will perform at or below 390x. Nothing more and nothing less and at £220 for the 8GB version with some overclocking making it 980 performance (maybe) then I would say that was a win. This old driver thing is just plain silly.
 
SiDeards73 said:
Very interesting... but as always a lazy dev is a lazy dev, regardless of this cards ability to help a lazy dev, if stuffs not optomised for it, it will never achieve its true potential.

However it does look increasingly more interesting by the day..
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Why wait for game devs or driver teams to optimise for your architecture when the chip can do it for you?

Devs are always under pressure, always shipping early and having to put out performance patches later. If Polaris addresses that by auto-optimising in a way we've never seen, and bringing significant benefits we've not had before, then surely that's a good and innovative thing?
 
Im not convinced they did. Surely giving the reviewers bad drivers simply do over your own reviewers and counters what many said was the point in the long NDA period to begin with?

The logic here is baffling me :/
 
meldarthx said:
I've been saying for a little while AMD is lowballing - but I've just been called mad and or names......we'll know soon enough - I've seen Zorg post other things that were spot on....and lines up with other leaks...
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Holding back the true ability of the card and with minimal performance comparisons at the original unveiling kinda left everyone unsure. It would have been a clever move to control the expected leaks if indeed via drivers they have deliberately done this and to build a hype.

Some of course will see it as wishful thinking as this thread shows. Although it is entertaining and sure gathering a lot of attention.
 
Alexrose1uk said:
Now that WOULD be interesting if any of the leaks are credible as itd suggest the card is already performing in 390 vicinity with new features disabled. That could mean a decent boost when they get switched on.

I dont want to get my hopes up but that and the rumours of vr downclocking do suggest the potential for AMD to be playing the lowball game.

It would be nice for AMD to have another 4870 on its hands...
Also if Zorg is a trusted dev then that makes things more interesting!
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With regards to new drivers specifically for Polaris, this was posted on Reddit the yesterday:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4pak9d/rx_480_driver_released_benchmark_in_progress_fixed/

Reviewers all got a new driver sent to them.

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Seanspeed said:
There is nothing to accomplish by doing this.

Nvidia have already released the 1070 and 1080 and GP106 doesn't look it's releasing within the next few weeks, so..........?
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We're back to it not being a direct competitor to the 1070 - erase that from your mind.

What it's designed to do is capture market share & move the perf/w bar lower than nVidia can compete with at that price point
 - nothing more, nothing less.

If they pull it off then nVidia have 2 options; 1) gut pricing and look like they were gouging to start with, or 2) Suffer a production curve to get something to market that can compete.

In the meantime AMD gobble up the middle & lower market and nVidia are left with high margin (debatable given their yields), low volume cards and no bread & butter.
 
Mr Latte said:
Holding back the true ability of the card and with minimal performance comparisons at the original unveiling kinda left everyone unsure. It would have been a clever move to control the expected leaks if indeed via drivers they have deliberately done this and to build a hype.

Some of course will see it as wishful thinking as this thread shows.
Although it is entertaining and sure gathering a lot of attention.
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Hype leads to nothing bar disappointment. Keep expectations low and release a good card and the majority are surprised and happy with the product. This creates positive word of mouth and the jobs a good one. Hype on the other hand often leads to stupid expectations and when said product does not live up to the impossible hype people are disappointed and it creates bad word of mouth. Either way this is why you don't want leaks and hold back as much as possible.
 
tavtavtav said:
Im not convinced they did. Surely giving the reviewers bad drivers simply do over your own reviewers and counters what many said was the point in the long NDA period to begin with?

The logic here is baffling me :/
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they haven't given reviewers bad drivers ffs - but holding back drivers to release say a week before nda lifts - would allow for leaks that come out showing performance all over the place exactly what we're see; along with lowballing scores to keep competitors guessing where it will land....

They did this with 4870 series; they did it with 5870 series......sadly they didn't really do it with 6000 series and above. Now looks like they've gone back to that......which is smart
 
Cant see any 1070 or 1080 cuts on the horizon but hopefully this AMD launch will force Nvidia will cut the price of their 9 series cars further, as they are still overpriced for what is essentially old tech.
 
Geck0 said:
We're back to it not being a direct competitor to the 1070 - erase that from your mind.

What it's designed to do is capture market share & move the perf/w bar lower than nVidia can compete with at that price point
 - nothing more, nothing less.

If they pull it off then nVidia have 2 options; 1) gut pricing and look like they were gouging to start with, or 2) Suffer a production curve to get something to market that can compete.

In the meantime AMD gobble up the middle & lower market and nVidia are left with high margin (debatable given their yields), low volume cards and no bread & butter.
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I'm well aware of what the 480 is being marketed/targeted at. I've NEVER been one to assume it would aspire to 1070-levels of competitiveness.

But you haven't explained how borked pre-release drivers help achieve this.
 
tavtavtav said:
Im not convinced they did. Surely giving the reviewers bad drivers simply do over your own reviewers and counters what many said was the point in the long NDA period to begin with?

The logic here is baffling me :/
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Typically you'd give them physical cards and white paper docs in advance so they can take the photos and write the pages explaining the tech, then you activate the cards via a driver later so they can do benchies and do the second half of the articles.

That leads to some people modding old drivers to get new cards to run (if modding is even necessary).

But I highly doubt there are entire features locked off unless new drivers are used - the fancy stuff should be all hardware driven, not software.
 
kalniel said:
I think some people are just trying to stir..
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hehe I've said from the beginning 480 would be at least 980 + in DX11 and in between nano and fury in DX 12; they would get faster with better drivers from the beginning.......

Where it lands with overclocking; no one knows and that is just bonus. I really should as my friends who are devs where this card falls.....
 
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