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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

fastboy said:
and peak wattage was nearly 150 watts..looks like 1x6 pin may be limiting oc but then again those temps look high too.
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There is far to much differing results out there to take anything seriously. One minute it runs cool and the next it's as hot as the sun. then we have way differing Firestrike scores. The only thing i am inclined to believe atm is the tflops which is 5.8 and the 390x is 5.9. It's still a Gcn card so in theory it should be around 390x or faster with the architecture improvements.

Slower than a £230 390 is not going to cut it and i think others are expecting to much at the same time.
 
humbug said:
melmac your being very disengenuois, the $200 coment was before i realised that this card would actually be the 4GB refrence one and at £200 after taxes ect, AMD cited $200 was not retail, i thought at the time that it was, IE about £150 retail.

The Titan-X was with the caviat that other leaks at the time sugesting Fury-Nano performance had some truth and only overclocked at the more expensive end of the AIB cards.

Which of course turns out not to be even close.

it is just a GTX 970 at around the same money and so far seems doesn't even overclock anything like as good.

My opinon is a £250 AIB 480 at the same level as £270 AIB GTX 970's (at launch) is frankley crap.
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Surely the 1070 is garbage as well since it's basically a 980/980ti and a 970 was a pointless card since a 780 already offered the same performance.

Nvidia is clearly a piece of garbage, why can't they give us performance gains, every year they give us the same cards! Bohooo Nvidia, 1070, 970, they're all total fail.

Why did you even bother buying a 970? It was a waste of money, the were already other cards with that performance from as far as a year before?
 
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fastboy said:
and peak wattage was nearly 150 watts..looks like 1x6 pin may be limiting oc but then again those temps look high too.
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I think it doesn't need 1.15V for 1322MHz, but as its a factory OC card they just set it to the max, to be safe. The temp are high, but pushing voltage to the max with only 58% fan is tend to cause high temps.
Also if a factory OC card can come with 1322MHz then the chip should be capable of higher clocls as these OC cards are udually clocked just a tiny bit above the stock, and nowhere near the real maximum.
 
humbug said:
My opinon is a £250 AIB 480 at the same level as £270 AIB GTX 970's (at launch) is frankley crap.
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Which doesn't matter, as this card isn't a mid range replacement, haven't you got that point yet? This is a mainstream replacement card for the 380x.

The 480 is launching at the same price as the 380x launched at. That's the facts. AMD can't do much better than that pricewise. The 970 was $329 at launch, the 960 was $199. The 480's are going to be $199 and $229. The 380x was $229 at launch.

You are basing your predictions for this card entirely on what you want completely ignoring who this card is actually aimed at. And Gibbo, who set you right about the 980ti performance, has also stated this.
 
PhoenixUK said:
Surely the 1070 is garbage as well since it's basically a 980/980ti and a 970 was a pointless card since a 780 already offered the same performance.

Nvidia is clearly a piece of garbage, why can't they give us performance gains, every year they give us the same cards! Bohooo Nvidia, 1070, 970, they're all total fail.

Why did you even bother buying a 970? It was a waste of money, the were already other cards with that performance.
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Garbage? Total fail? What you been eating? Magic mushrooms?

Just to add a 780Ti is on par (actually worse performing) than a 970. 780Ti was rather expensive on launch aswell.

Sure they could give you a crazy performing GPU. But you will need a rather large loan to buy it.
 
fastboy said:
and peak wattage was nearly 150 watts..looks like 1x6 pin may be limiting oc but then again those temps look high too.
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On almos every Motherboard and PSU you can draw more than the 150 a 6pin + PCIE slot provides. 150w is the minimum gurnateed, not the maximum that can be drawn.
 
ok good to know :)

I'm just panicking whether I need to wait for an AIB or buy one of these Wednesday..either ways I will be owning one :)
 
PhoenixUK said:
Surely the 1070 is garbage as well since it's basically a 980/980ti and a 970 was a pointless card since a 780 already offered the same performance.

Nvidia is clearly a piece of garbage, why can't they give us performance gains, every year they give us the same cards! Bohooo Nvidia, 1070, 970, they're all total fail.

Why did you even bother buying a 970? It was a waste of money, the were already other cards with that performance from as far as a year before?
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the difference is, those cards were £500+ and were replaced slightly faster but £200 cheaper cards... that is some progress, not massively, but its something

the point humbug is making is that these new cards are the same performance AND the same price as cards that have been available for years, there's no cost saving to getting a 480X over just having bought a 390 months ago

if the 390 has been selling poorly at that performance and that price, why do AMD expect the 480X at the same performance and price to suddenly sell loads better?

if these rumours are true it makes AMD look completely bonkers

if its a 380X replacement then it needs to be sub £200
 
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PhoenixUK said:
Surely the 1070 is garbage as well since it's basically a 980/980ti and a 970 was a pointless card since a 780 already offered the same performance.
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Is the 1070 basically a 980 or a 980ti? Those are two entirely different cards in two separate performance tiers.

Of course the answer is the 980ti, though in reality the 1070 easily beats it at stock clocks. The 980ti is a beast OCer so if you want to OC then the 980ti is likely the better choice.

What you're alleging is that the argument is that because there's a comparable card the 480 is pointless, but that's not the argument. Yes, there was a comparable card for the 1070 on release. The reason the 1070 was anticipated is because that comparable card cost twice as much as Nvidia told us the 1070 would cost.

The 1070 was MSRP 370 dollars while the 980ti was 670 dollars. For some reason, expecting a 370 card to beat a 670 one from the previous generation was perfectly reasonable, but expecting a ~225 dollar card to beat a 400 dollar card from last generation is ridiculous? Typically we expect newer cards to perform better as technology advances and graphical demands increase. The only thing new or ridiculous here is the notion that a midrange card replacing previous gen midrange cards is the norm. A die shrink especially is where we should see major performance gains for less cost.

Not to you specifically but this is also why the car analogy I saw earlier is ridiculous. You can't equate an industry where units from over 30 years ago are still just as viable as the brand new ones. Technology industries rely on increasing performance for at very least comparable prices. The status quo is a failure in the tech market.
 
Apparently nvidia and and should discount brand new products.

If the card turns out to be 390x performance then i would consider that darn good value
 
Anyone like to bet against AMD deliberately leaking some of these results to confuse the picture? Best way to hide the truth is amongst lots of other possible truths.
 
andybird123 said:
the difference is, those cards were £500+ and were replaced slightly faster but £200 cheaper cards... that is some progress, not massively, but its something

the point humbug is making is that these new cards are the same performance AND the same price as cards that have been available for years, there's no cost saving to getting a 480X over just having bought a 390 months ago

if the 390 has been selling poorly at that performance and that price, why do AMD expect the 480X at the same performance and price to suddenly sell loads better?

if these rumours are true it makes AMD look completely bonkers

if its a 380X replacement then it needs to be sub £200
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Google 380X launch price and come back to me :p
 
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