Brexit thread - what happens next

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pioneer2000 said:
There wouldn't be a thread if it weren't for remainers complaining about something that was fairly voted upon.

So yes, of course it's the leavers advising them to get over it.
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You are stretching the meaning of this word just a tad...

And whether or not the vote itself was conducted fairly is irrelevant, the circumstances leading up to the vote were the issue. The lies. The fact that a great number of people voted leave for completely invalid reasons.
 
All this talk of negotiations here and a second referendum there or a general election......

The member states are making it abundantly clear. No trigger of article 50 no start of negotiations.

They've had enough. They put enough effort into Camerons renegotiation. They aren't going to waste million in euros and man hours to negotiate a deal which the UK may or may not accept. The longer it goes the worse negotiations will be

It's over pull the trigger and get talking
 
sityeuropa said:
FTSE is looking up. I think you dooms dayers were too soon to judge.

Too panicky from an expected stock drop.
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Is that your version of a silver lining to this whole mess?

So increase taxes, reduction in government spending.

Looks like crippling austerity on the way boys. Maybe those triple lock pensions will be one of the 1st things to deal with, after all we're in it together right?
 
SteveOBHave said:
I disagree. Every thug looking to riot and steal will come out and use it as an excuse.
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Are you suggesting that people who voted leave are thugs and criminals?

This is a totally baffling perspective to have and I pity anyone who cannot appreciate any choice beyond staying in a broken EU.

The reason why there should be riots if Brexit isn't carried through with, is that it would be a disgusting failure of democracy.
 
There are plenty of people on either side who have a bit of that in them. I don't think anyone suggested that all leave voters are thugs. Just that the few that are, would riot and protest.

pioneer2000 said:
Do you have proof of that, or is it purely speculation to try and label a fair outcome as "unfair".
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Are you completely delusional or just mostly..?
 
pioneer2000 said:
Are you suggesting that people who voted leave are thugs and criminals?

This is a totally baffling perspective to have and I pity anyone who cannot appreciate any choice beyond staying in a broken EU.

The reason why there should be riots if Brexit isn't carried through with, is that it would be a disgusting failure of democracy.
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That is not what he said. You have misunderstood.

Just like the racist idiots that have been prominent in the media since the results - some people will use current events to further their own agenda.
 
pioneer2000 said:
Are you suggesting that people who voted leave are thugs and criminals?
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Of course he isn't.

pioneer2000 said:
This is a totally baffling perspective to have and I pity anyone who cannot appreciate any choice beyond staying in a broken EU.
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Staying with the EU doesn't mean you love everything about it. We were given a binary choice with no real positive from either.

pioneer2000 said:
The reason why there should be riots if Brexit isn't carried through with, is that it would be a disgusting failure of democracy.
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1. Saying there should be riots is wrong.
2. It wouldn't be a failure of democracy, it is the Parliamentary right to make a decision. They should take the referendum into account but they wouldn't be breaking any rules if they didn't invoke article 50 even if, morally at least, it isn't the right thing to do.
 
gizmoy2k said:
All this talk of negotiations here and a second referendum there or a general election......

The member states are making it abundantly clear. No trigger of article 50 no start of negotiations.

They've had enough. They put enough effort into Camerons renegotiation. They aren't going to waste million in euros and man hours to negotiate a deal which the UK may or may not accept. The longer it goes the worse negotiations will be

It's over pull the trigger and get talking
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But talking on what? Full removal from the EU trade zone? Or entry to EEA with full freedom of movement?

How do the government know what people voted for? Taken literally, I would assume it means no EEA or EFTA so thats simple. Not many negotiations needed and wont take two years then. Just do what the winning vote wants.

But ill bet all my life savings if they do that the pound and FTSE will hit new record lows.
 
n111ck said:
number 1 reason for leave was regaining sovereignty not fear of your trusted partner bankrupting you on the way out.
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That's definitely some people's reason.

Many others probably couldn't give you a break down of what sovereignty even means.
 
Mauller said:
Was watching the news earlier and someone rightly came out and stated a valid reason for the stock drop.
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Seriously? "A large number of people put a lot of money on Remain coming out as the winner at the bookies" is the cause of the stock market movement? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read.
 
Having spoken to a load of joiners and the washing machine repair man recently their reasons ranged from, dont like the polish, dont like people telling us what to do and you never know it "might" be better why not have a gamble.
 
cheesyboy said:
The timing of UK actually pressing the button on leaving is extending into the future, and the likelihood of not pressing it at all is climbing.
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Indeed. The PM and the set up of the government that offered this referendum have gone. .

For it to be enacted, we need a PM and government willing to do it, which so far we do not have.
 
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