Brexit thread - what happens next

[Mr Jack]

And? He said 'most' not 'all'. Go find something else to be faux outraged by

Of 14 MEPs who spoke on Tuesday, 13 had previous careers outside politics. Farage farting through the wrong end as usual.

He's an absolute disgrace to the country. Best thing about leaving the EU? He'll never ever be a representative of this country on the international stage again.

 

[Tunney]

And? He said 'most' not 'all'. Go find something else to be faux outraged by

Outraged? I just found it amusing. His reaction to Farage's speech is priceless.

 

[BuffetSlayer]

Where the hell is Boris Johnson?

******** his pants I expect

Or he could be having talks behind closed doors with a potential future cabinet and putting together a plan for exit negotiations.

I guess time will tell.

I do find it curious how much hate has been levelled at Boris for being the reason we voted leave, and yet very little is being said about Dave who gave the referendum in the first place and when it didnt go his way, stepped down.

Can't help but think that whilst it was a political master stroke, it was also quite cowardly.

 

[George Hincapie]

Should be acting like a leader that he aspires to be, doing interviews that he will take control, that he has a plan to stabilise the country and that he is in talks with euro politicians for the best deal the UK can get.


Except...zilch. It's like he had gone into hiding.

That's a reasonable observation TBH. I agree to a degree. Must be difficult to know how far to take that without stepping on Cameron's toes though. He hasn't gone yet.

 

[George Hincapie]

Outraged? I just found it amusing. His reaction to Farage's speech is priceless.

OK. I rescind my faux outrage against your faux outrage. Or something.

 

[Darujhistan]

Should be acting like a leader that he aspires to be, doing interviews that he will take control, that he has a plan to stabilise the country and that he is in talks with euro politicians for the best deal the UK can get.


Except...zilch. It's like he had gone into hiding.

Where was the CURRENT CHANCELLOR for days afterwards?

 

[George Hincapie]

Of 14 MEPs who spoke on Tuesday, 13 had previous careers outside politics. Farage farting through the wrong end as usual.

He's an absolute disgrace to the country. Best thing about leaving the EU? He'll never ever be a representative of this country on the international stage again.

He was addressing the entire floor. I actually found his speech funny and hard hitting, if a little immature in places.

 

[LOAM]

Farage was a National embarrassment yesterday and showed he cares not a jot about the UK, this entire thing is nothing but a personal gripe that has grown to a self edifying crusade. His attendance of 40% places him second from last at 745th out of 746 MEP's is utterly shocking, he was only saved from being last because the chap who is last is apparently paralysed and in hospital!

I fail to understand how on earth he has successfully persuaded the UK electorate to join his crusade by suggesting that we have no say in the EU when he himself reduces our say in the EU by not attending.

I don't hide the fact that I consider him dangerous and dislike the man but to see him crowing and gloating in an assembly he rarely attends was sickening.

 

[kitch9]

Delusional? I think it's the most likely outcome by a long way. Especially once other countries in the EU hold referendums and vote leave.

Force the EU to sit down with everyone and listen to what they actually want. Either that or the whole EU will dissolve.

Everyone is a winner then, no countries actually leave the EU, they all get better terms, the EU fights on… Remainers remain and leavers get the changes they wanted. Win, win, win.

Allow free movement with no benefits paid, in-work, housing or otherwise for 2-3 years.

All problems solved.

 

[do_ron_ron]

Delusional? I think it's the most likely outcome by a long way. Especially once other countries in the EU hold referendums and vote leave.

Apart from the Far Right, Le Penn and Wilders there is no great anti EU movement. People are grumbling due to unemployment and tax dodging businesses but that type of thing is normal. Looking at TV progs from across Europe the main line seems to be incredibility at the UK.

Force the EU to sit down with everyone and listen to what they actually want. Either that or the whole EU will dissolve.

The Little Englander view, they must do as we tell them. Sorry, not in the real world.

Everyone is a winner then, no countries actually leave the EU, they all get better terms, the EU fights on… Remainers remain and leavers get the changes they wanted. Win, win, win.

Most of the discontent is due to the effects of the Crash not the EU. Apart from Farage and the usual right wing Tory suspects who was against the EU before the Crash?

 

[kitch9]

Does most equal all?

I appear to have been doing English wrong for the past 38 years.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Where was the CURRENT CHANCELLOR for days afterwards?

Didn't he make a speech first thing Monday morning before the market opens?

Tomorrow will be a full week since the referendum and last we heard from Boris was Friday morning.

 

[Bonjour]

Where was the CURRENT CHANCELLOR for days afterwards?

Cranking

 

[do_ron_ron]

The old party system is a bit outdated. I don't believe the current big parties really understand the electorate. I'd much prefer to see small more agile parties, more in tune with voters, working together to tackle the big issues. That can't happen whilst it's a ****ing match between lab and cons

I think it is more to do with Corporate politics, getting across the slick Party message, weeding out the people who don't toe the Party line. Personally I like the Skinners of the world. I may not agree with their politics but they have been working in the real world as opposed to the public school, Oxbridge,
Party wonk background we are seeing more and more in Corporate politics.

 

[Greebo]

What astounds me with all this 'let's make Britain great' and 'take back control' preaching is that people seem to be under the illusion that it's the EU who are responsible for everything they think is wrong with the country and by somehow leaving it'll all be fixed.

Hmm...

Yep.

I saw Brexit campaigners saying the coal mines shutting and selling off the Post Office and the Railways was all because of the EU.

 

[gettothechopper]

I think we are going to be watching the leave group implode over the next few weeks, they did well to unify a disparate group into voting leave, but turning that into policy that satisfies all is going to be completely impossible

Conservatives like Jeremy Hunt (There are straight away 1 million people who wouldn't vote for you!) talking about free trade without freedom of movement are dreaming. Also talking about 2020+ before article 50, lol!

UKipers are not going to accept their victory being squandered with sensible compromises so expect a surge in leave voters voting UKIP next time because they feel the tories didn't give them what they wanted (zero immigration)

Labour are completely ineffectual as opposition until they resolve their civil war, Ed milibands party voting system is a disaster and the silly corbinites are just going to revote him and carry on the deadlock until labour self destructs completely

People crying about Cameron quitting / not invoking A50 - you voted against him to commit suicide, don't complain that he wont pull the trigger for you.
Boris absence is pretty telling that he broke it and now doesn't know how to fix it, I cant imagine he will have the easy walk into No.10 that people expect, A lot of tories / voters see him as the lead saboteur now.

People complaining that remain should "get over it" - sod off! to 48% of the country you just completely broke our country, you cant expect millions of people to just instantly be happy about everything based on the results of a very close vote. People are allowed to complain, just as you lot where complaining for the last 20 odd years about being in the EU, you cant expect people to not complain that we are leaving it
HOWEVER yes rerunning referendums etc is stupid, and the result should be respected now although I do like the delicious irony that it was started by a leave campaigner before the vote

Hopefully we will get a free trade / free movement deal for us remainers, and at least you guys will be happy about the sovereignty stuff and not being in ever closer union?

Economy wise, the currency stuff is short term shock, its the longer term stuff like jobs, mortgages , interest rates that worries me - I really do hope the remainers are correct and the experts are wrong because I need my job / house!

 

[do_ron_ron]

Bit like China, USA then.... Seems to work for them.

Both are massive economic blocks and as I said earlier get favourable positions in treaties. America also has the world trading currency which is a huge boost to their economy(One of the first thing the Americans demanded in the post War Bretton Woods conference was the dollar to replace the pound as the worlds trading currency). China as the second biggest has massive reserves(financing American consumption which is used to buy Chinese goods). It is their size and power that gives them the advantage. Something the EU was trying to counter for the groups of European nations.

 

[Errol]

 

[Errol]

 

[Errol]