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Has Gibbo given any indication of how they're selling? I would be interested to see how quick they're shifting.
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Anyone disappointed that AMD has only released the 480 and nothing bigger?
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Yep, 1000+ sold on the first day of release between 2pm and evening.
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Yes, over 1000 yesterday - and still going and still in stock (though some prices have gone up as he's sold some of the original batches - though the new batches cost him more but they now have 3yr warranty compared to 2 on the cheaper ones before them) - he's been in Germany today with AMD so more news tomorrow - maybe about the AIB cards and their ETA's.
Please dont tell us that story about how you went to that town called Bel Air again...
Anyways, it's interesting that the only high end cards AMD have released since 2013 are the Fiji line. Meanwhile, Nvidia released GM204, GM200 and now GP104.
Personally, I feel that AMD could do nothing better than to take the 'fastest card' crown away from Nvidia. No, that specific card wouldn't be their biggest money-maker, but it's about brand perception. The Titan sold 760's and 770's to users. Even the GTX970 I'm sure sold 960's to people. Cards that were not necessarily the best in terms of price/performance for their price range, but it's enough that Nvidia gets known as the brand with the fastest cards that it sways perception.
AMD have been playing this 'best value' in the lower priced bracket game for a while now and it hasn't worked out great for them so far. Another example was the R7 265. Was a better card than the 750Ti, but guess what got all the attention anyways?
I realize it's a lot to ask for anybody to put out a 500mm^ card so early, but yea, hoping they'd at least push things on with a genuinely fast card and can compete with or beat GP104 seems like something I feel would have done their brand some good.
480 isn't a bad card but I feel the performance target is low enough that Nvidia shouldn't have *too* hard a time matching it and can probably get away with charging more for it, as again - brand perception.
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That's great news. I am glad to see it doing well and hopefully it'll continue to bring market share back to AMD so we can have some good old competition.
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Interesting watching TTL's video on the 480 and the fact the OCs made zero difference until he hoped the power.
He spoke to AMD who have verified the cards are on a curve where OCing the core does pretty much nothing as they are power starved, but upping the power has good gains at the cost of generating a lot of heat.
So as I said previously once the AIB cooled and power adjusted cards come it will be interesting to see how good these cards are, early tests with ghetto mods appear to yield extremely good results with them pushing jnto Fury and Nano territory.
Could be some interesting times ahead
He spoke to AMD who have verified the cards are on a curve where OCing the core does pretty much nothing as they are power starved, but upping the power has good gains at the cost of generating a lot of heat.
So as I said previously once the AIB cooled and power adjusted cards come it will be interesting to see how good these cards are, early tests with ghetto mods appear to yield extremely good results with them pushing jnto Fury and Nano territory.
Could be some interesting times ahead
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Nope. Was looking for the fastest card on the market to power my new SuperWide monitor to its full use (otherwise what's the point of buying one in the first place?). That happened to be Nvidia at this stage. Someone from one of the hardware selling sites here in NZ must've noobed-up as the price for a 1080 dropped very briefly (I'm talking an hour or so) and I grabbed one.
Next purchase will probably be a 2nd hand 1080Ti !
Next purchase will probably be a 2nd hand 1080Ti !
I am not disappointed. We all knew that we expect, the RX 480, not the 490 not something bigger. From the start they said a cheap, cheerful and powerful for the money, mainstream card to replace everything bellow the top of the range (R9 290X/390X/Fury/X).
That's a market segment AMD always did well and NV failed over the last few years with overpriced pieces of junk, compared of that AMD had in offer at same price.
Personally I doubt the 1060 will be faster than the RX480, more likely something in par with the 470. But then, why someone would want to buy the NV when the AMD has better support in DX12 and especially drivers?
I have no idea why you think this. There's a *massive* gulf in performance between a 480(970-level) and a 1070 and you dont think Nvidia will fit something in-between?
Nvidia have also proven that they are entirely capable of providing big boosts in performance per mm^ compared to Maxwell with Pascal, meaning that even a 200mm^ card should easily exceed 970 performance.
I dont expect Nvidia to price it as aggressively as the 480, but well....they can justify that if it performs better.
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Yeah, think its a bit stupid too only have a 480 but I suspect the reason is AMD right now can't do any better. They can't produce anything thats going too compete with the 1080, which sucks for customers because it means Nvidia can just add a $100 tax on GPUs.
Also if there is a 1060 out then thats bad for AMD, even if the 480 is cheaper and faster as long as the 960 is not too far off the 480 will take a beating. Nvidia's brand and reach is far too strong for AMD too compete. Look at the 380, faster then the 960 but the 960 has such a lead in terms of sales and market share.
Also if there is a 1060 out then thats bad for AMD, even if the 480 is cheaper and faster as long as the 960 is not too far off the 480 will take a beating. Nvidia's brand and reach is far too strong for AMD too compete. Look at the 380, faster then the 960 but the 960 has such a lead in terms of sales and market share.
Because Nv are like hookers, they nail everything for their customers, when they don't, they tell you to ram it.
I was hoping that after rebranding the 290/X for around the £300 mark (About the same cast as the 290/X) AMD would give the £300 crowed something to upgrade to this time round.
Clearly they havent, Vega is a long way off and even when it does arrive what sort of performance and price is it going to be?
AIB RX 480's are going to be £250 up, the same as a similar performance 390, whats the chances of Vega being £300?
AMD claim to be for the affordable GPU's, but there not, Polaris is more of the same for the same money.
Its not looking good for those wanting to spend around £300.
Clearly they havent, Vega is a long way off and even when it does arrive what sort of performance and price is it going to be?
AIB RX 480's are going to be £250 up, the same as a similar performance 390, whats the chances of Vega being £300?
AMD claim to be for the affordable GPU's, but there not, Polaris is more of the same for the same money.
Its not looking good for those wanting to spend around £300.
I am a little disappointed that there is no upgrade for me as a 390 yet from amd but I am not disappointed with the 480.
The 480 has done it's purpose especially the 4gb version at the release price.
A little disappointed in nvidia though due to the pascal pricing as I would have already had a 1070 but will wait a little bit longer.
The 480 has done it's purpose especially the 4gb version at the release price.
A little disappointed in nvidia though due to the pascal pricing as I would have already had a 1070 but will wait a little bit longer.
Reasonable, I'd think. Gotta remember that the non-high end segment tends to have smaller gaps between cards in terms of pricing. $200/240 for reference 480 and roughly $300 for reference 490 doesn't seem outlandish.
I also imagine AMD will want to get two GPU's out of baby Vega, so maybe cut down baby Vega for $300, full fat version $380. Then big daddy Vega also two GPU's - $499 and $599.
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I think this is actually a good point. A lot of 290/290X owners may have been waiting for some time for a decent upgrade in their price bracket and AMD are keeping them waiting.
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Disappointed? No not really. I didn't have any expectations so just curious to see where it would land. My main PC's FuryX/XR34 combo works well enough for now. I do have a 2nd PC/family PC that has a HD 7950 in it and I'm seriously thinking of picking up a RX480 as it would be a very nice upgrade for £180 @ 1080p.
Is there any such thing as an AMD fan? I've had ATI/AMD gfx cards for the last 10 years but thats because they're usually better value for money. I like nice PC hardware but I like good value for money even more. I have a Freesync monitor because the the price difference for Gsync equivalent is ridiculous, I'm not sure what components Nvidia are using for the X34 but for £300 difference over the XR34 they'd better be machined out of solid gold. If Nvidia ever decided to support Freesync I'd swap the Fury for a 980ti in a moment. But since they won't, I won't.
Aye, the "Better Nvidia" mindset is so ingrained it makes little difference what they do at the enthusiast level, the entry level market on the other hand neither knows nor cares about elitist attitudes.
Is there any such thing as an AMD fan? I've had ATI/AMD gfx cards for the last 10 years but thats because they're usually better value for money. I like nice PC hardware but I like good value for money even more. I have a Freesync monitor because the the price difference for Gsync equivalent is ridiculous, I'm not sure what components Nvidia are using for the X34 but for £300 difference over the XR34 they'd better be machined out of solid gold. If Nvidia ever decided to support Freesync I'd swap the Fury for a 980ti in a moment. But since they won't, I won't.
Aye, the "Better Nvidia" mindset is so ingrained it makes little difference what they do at the enthusiast level, the entry level market on the other hand neither knows nor cares about elitist attitudes.