How?
Still never seen anything he's done to directly make me think he's a racist.
People like you banding around and calling anyone who disagree with unchecked immigration or who want out of Europe, a racist is part of a huge problem.
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How?
Still never seen anything he's done to directly make me think he's a racist.
People like you banding around and calling anyone who disagree with unchecked immigration or who want out of Europe, a racist is part of a huge problem.
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It doesn't work if I have to explain it.
Ahhh the good old impartial non-politically non partisan BBC who other than -incredibly - Andrew Neil have been pro remain... Must have been the big fat EU cheques.
Yes Boris Johnson... Of course all the success of the campaign was solely down to him. Without Farage we wouldn't even be having any of these discussions and he was not given much of a platform either... There was another politician not given a platform who is now being blamed for the failure of remain... But of course there is no ulterior motive of the press
It doesn't work if I have to explain it.
Ahhh the good old impartial non-politically non partisan BBC who other than -incredibly - Andrew Neil have been pro remain... Must have been the big fat EU cheques.
Yes Boris Johnson... Of course all the success of the campaign was solely down to him. Without Farage we wouldn't even be having any of these discussions and he was not given much of a platform either... There was another politician not given a platform who is now being blamed for the failure of remain... But of course there is no ulterior motive of the press
Hate to break it to you but the ftse100 is not a barometer for the uk economy. Most of those companies are multi-national and benefit from the weakened pound. A fairer representation is the ftse250 which is largely made up of UK companies with predominantly UK operations and that is still significantly down on pre-referendum levels.
Couple that with the weak pound (which was forecast to hit 1.6 if we remained) and our slashed sovereign debt rating which will hit our repayment costs in future on sovereign debt due to higher interest (which incidentally will probably wipe out any of those mooted 'savings' from leaving the EU anyway) we can safely say the short term economic outlook isn't great. Uncertainty doesn't help businesses in their investment decisions, seen a very tangible drop off in m&a at work and 3 IPO listings have already been canned.
We have a very real possibility of hitting a recession but if leave voters want to stick their fingers in their ears then that's their prerogative. However as a country we need to move on and try and get the best possible deal for us, you can't possibly believe that having a man who singlehandedly alienated most of Europe with his speech on Monday is the man to be at the table trying to get the best deal. We need a clean slate and that means no farage.
The FTSE is for the rich anyway. Someone at a mates house who works in London said a friend of his working in currency exchange made £45k in one day from the fluctuations then a similar amount as the FTSE climbs.
Forecast you say? Well I suppose when the 1,000trillion credit bubble bursts Brexit will be blamed.
Recession true definition: When the hyper rich individuals or entities are making little or no money
Markets fluctuate, there was billions in foreign property investment too on Friday from the Chinese but of course that wouldn't fit the BBC narrative of everything has to look like the world is ending.
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No, the BBC made it clear, that once the markets had crashed enough, lots of foreign types spied the weaken markets as an investment opportunity, and that is what cause the FTSE to rise again, not recovered as opportunism.
The good old BBC then saying exactly what any investment shark would already know. We will see what happens when other referenda are called across Europe to regain democracy.
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I don't think I can think of anyone else who is quite as odious, vile and nasty as Farage. Every time I even think of that grinning photo of him holding a pint I want to punch things.
How could anyone see any good in him?!
How could anyone see any good in him?!
You know - With all these extra threads, we're gunna need to open up a seperate "Politics" forum
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By taking off our little pony rose tinted glasses? By not believing what the MSM says?
I was quite dissapointed to learn that Farage is still insulting Mark Carney after he came out with a fairly level headed and sensible statement
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If we hardly ever see on the TV again then I think the out vote was 100% worth it!
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Ahhh the good old impartial non-politically non partisan BBC who other than -incredibly - Andrew Neil have been pro remain... Must have been the big fat EU cheques.
Yes Boris Johnson... Of course all the success of the campaign was solely down to him. Without Farage we wouldn't even be having any of these discussions and he was not given much of a platform either... There was another politician not given a platform who is now being blamed for the failure of remain... But of course there is no ulterior motive of the press
what are you dribbling about? I was talking about Douglas Carswell
Yes Nigey appeals to the traditional ukippers/mouth foamers, but is completely appalling to the rest of us. Boris added far more broad support for leave, and put an acceptable face on it - its why the official leave campaign didn't want anything to do with Farage at all.
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By taking off our little pony rose tinted glasses? By not believing what the MSM says?
You did see him talking at the European Parliament? The guy is horrible! He's rude, arrogant and insulting.
Hopefully they are recaptured fairly quickly.
Ah, so now the FTSE is suddenly not a good measure. Because someone who's friend of a friend said they made some money...that's what happens when you buy low, sell high
doesn't mean it's good for the economy. Fact remains that the FTSE250 is down - the situation was predictable to an extent hence why people made money from it; it was almost a 'no-brainer' to put the money in (and as a result, the market picks back up)Surely I don't need to explain why a huge amount of foreign investment in property is bad for us? In any case, the situation is unstable enough that some Singapore banks have ceased lending on London property.
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Does anyone actaully know (or can intelligently theorise) why on earth he said that most of the MEP's had never done a days work in theirs lives (or very similar words), when he has to have know that amogst those people were ex surgeons, high ranking soldiers, professors etc.
What did he possibly expect to come of that?
I actually agree(d) with some of his policies, but that was just......plain.....stupid!
Do you think he deliberatly tried to alienate the EU members for a certain reason?
What did he possibly expect to come of that?
I actually agree(d) with some of his policies, but that was just......plain.....stupid!
Do you think he deliberatly tried to alienate the EU members for a certain reason?
Yes exclude the guy that started it all and got the broadest cross party support group with grassroots out... Medias answer... Exclude him.
Foaming at the mouth? No that will be these petulant remainers demanding everything throwing toys out the pram... Mentioning no names
I did... The man has spent 20years nearly in that place being laughed at, ridiculed, put down, fined for telling the truth, ignored and demonized... He has every right to be smug.
Let his smug face settle in your mind
Ah, so now the FTSE is suddenly not a good measure. Because someone who's friend of a friend said they made some money...that's what happens when you buy low, sell high
Surely I don't need to explain why a huge amount of foreign investment in property is bad for us? In any case, the situation is unstable enough that some Singapore banks have ceased lending on London property.
Well so far the experts have been wrong haven't they. Rather than having a one week snapshot lets look at long term and wait and make a decision based on that.
No you don't because then when there is no more credit to lend... We create....
Well, no they've not really been wrong - there were predictions that the market would collapse and it did. The one and only reason it's improved a bit is because A50 hasn't been invoked yet; there is still a lot of uncertainty which is why it hasn't recovered properly and the reason it looks healthy is because of the foreign investment buys that have been taking advantage of the significantly weaker pound. I think it's a bit of an illusion and we are sitting on a bit of a knifes edge. Don't think we can say which way it'll go until we see what the route is going forward.
Not sure I follow. We create what?
Well when we run out of credit to pay debts we just create more credit.
Well S6S we will see what the long term will be. I fully expect Greece to take a hit in the next 6months and by new year other nations demanding their own referenda. Any way you look at it, people do not like an authoritarian body saying and doing as they please.
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