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Nothing good?

Where are Putins tanks?

Doom and gloom. All because most people say no to the EU the more vocal and as it happens minority are continuing this unwarranted diatribe. Believe in Britain as much as you do the EU and we wil be fine

What did he do to those tanks?

Faith is well and good if you want to be consoled when times are tough. I rather take the words of experts (as you know most advised against the exit), as being an expert in my own field, i know how much misinformation is shovelled to the public by the media and politicians.

Was it my hatred of a snake or my disbelief in his stopping a Russian invasion that gave it away?

I think it was due tot he lack of flag waving and Farage fluffing.
 
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Hardly noble, so far it has resulted in nothing good.

It would be far easier to argue that he is petty and spiteful to the point where he would sabotage his own job so he can say 'look who's laughing now'

Some may even go as far as to say 'sabotage his own country' but I wouldn't be that vicious :o

Also that comment about the tanks...really? I don't see the North Koreans marching along Trafalgar square so maybe we can thank him for that too?!
 
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Well at the risk of a ban i won't be retorting to that with femmes comment from earlier.

It was pretty obvious Russia wouldn't give a stuff though. Hating snakes should have put you well and truly off Cameron incidentally but abandoning ones principles for misguided notions is not a good ethos to uphold.
 
Probably the apparent biased moderating :D

Not the only one to notice at least :D

What did he do to those tanks?

Faith is well and good if you want to be consoled when times are tough. I rather take the words of experts (as you know most advised against the exit), as being an expert in my own field, i know how much misinformation is shovelled to the public by the media and politicians.

I think it was due tot he lack of flag waving and Farage fluffing.

Experts are always right though are they not?

The same experts are repeatedly wrong. These btw are the same experts lending exuberant money at extortionate prices resulting in soon a failed project.
 
Probably the apparent biased moderating :D

He is not a debate referee, this is a thread discussion. Why do moderators have to have a neutral opinion on thread topics?

There is a lot of baiting with '*********', 'crybaby' and generalised trolling. to give warnings that these irrelevant comments are not welcomed to civilised thread discussions is hardly biased.

As a mod he is ensuring the thread stays clean, not deciding which point made is fair and not fair for Farage.

Want to discuss the moderating? Take it up in the relevant forum section
 
Experts are always right though are they not?

More often than not.

If you were severely ill, would you go to the doctor for your medical advice or would you go to an old lady down the road who makes all sorts of wild medical claims?

If you get a second opinion, third, fourth... tenth opinion, would you believe the 9 doctors who told you xxx (despite not liking the answer) or the tenth doctor who told you yyy?
 
To elucidate: He always maintained his intention was to end his job. A noble aim indeed.

Noble aim it may be but all his (few) votes in the Eu was solely to that aim even if his vote could have stopped something being introduced which was not advantageous to the uk. Better to let them vote it in and then you can complain about it and say "see British people, this is what the unelected EU is doing to you, killing your fishing industry, stealing your jobs etc"

That way you achieve your long term gain of persuading the British people to vote leave by making the remain in EU as unpalatable as you can.

Anyway, you cant go back now and say "what if" we had had better MEPs who voted and fought our corner. We elected him.

The most damning thing IMO is that he was a member of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee where he attended ONE out of 42 meetings.

During his time in the EU he was in the building when there was three votes on fixing the flaws of the Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) which he failed to vote on.

And the worst omission was in 2013, Nigel Farage was again present but chose not to vote on the part of the reform of the CFP that introduces an obligation on governments to give more fishing quota to sustainable fishermen who contribute the most to the local, coastal economies. This would have seen the UK Government giving more fishing quota to local, low impact fishing fleets.

Yet he used the UK fishermen during his leave campaign and even had a poster on it about how the EU destroyed UK fishing industry.

Yet he never voted on anything that could have changed it. WHy? Cause if the EU had reformed and changed then his argument for leaving never would have won.
 
He is not a debate referee, this is a thread discussion. Why do moderators have to have a neutral opinion on thread topics?

There is a lot of baiting with '*********', 'crybaby' and generalised trolling. to give warnings that these irrelevant comments are not welcomed to civilised thread discussions is hardly biased.

As a mod he is ensuring the thread stays clean, not deciding which point made is fair and not fair for Farage.

Want to discuss the moderating? Take it up in the relevant forum section

They don't but applying a census evenly certainly helps.

Its a word that is gaining momentum. It fits how a certain group reacts when someone says something different based on their opinion. Its self evident.

Fair... Let them eat cake monsieur

Like Turkeys voting for Christmas.

The reality is and one that cannot be detracted from is that all of this animosity has arisen because the losing side of a certain referendum last week is throwing the baby out with the bathwater because they had and continue to have a tantrum.

At the end of the day its over... Move on. Its called democracy. Don't like it there is always the EU
 
If you get a second opinion, third, fourth... tenth opinion, would you believe the 9 doctors who told you xxx (despite not liking the answer) or the tenth doctor who told you yyy?

‘Physicians of the Utmost Fame
Were called at once; but when they came
They answered, as they took their Fees,
‘There is no cure for this disease.’

Tenth
 
Noble aim it may be but all his (few) votes in the Eu was solely to that aim even if his vote could have stopped something being introduced which was not advantageous to the uk. Better to let them vote it in and then you can complain about it and say "see British people, this is what the unelected EU is doing to you, killing your fishing industry, stealing your jobs etc"

That way you achieve your long term gain of persuading the British people to vote leave by making the remain in EU as unpalatable as you can.

Anyway, you cant go back now and say "what if" we had had better MEPs who voted and fought our corner. We elected him.

The most damning thing IMO is that he was a member of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee where he attended ONE out of 42 meetings.

I believe he already answered that incorrect statement following bob Geldofs idiotic boat down the Thames stunt:

Nigel Farage said:
CFP is shared by the EC and can only have 20%

Devil is in the detail. Who can change that proportion. It would not be Farage.

And the worst omission was in 2013, Nigel Farage was again present but chose not to vote on the part of the reform of the CFP that introduces an obligation on governments to give more fishing quota to sustainable fishermen who contribute the most to the local, coastal economies. This would have seen the UK Government giving more fishing quota to local, low impact fishing fleets.

How many people voted in favor of that I wonder if it was allowed to happen

he used the UK fishermen during his leave campaign and even had a poster on it about how the EU destroyed UK fishing industry.

Yet he never voted on anything that could have changed it. WHy? Cause if the EU had reformed and changed then his argument for leaving never would have won.

As with a lot in the EU... Does voting make a difference. If he was voting against say Spain and others who fish our waters he is outnumbered. The EU hate him and for good reason.
 
This is a thread about Farage, my opinion on him and how he performed in EU parliament as well as on his campaign is relevant and not just a tantrum throw. Like i said, many held poor opinions of him far before the referendum.

The word has been used in this thread repeatedly to bait rather than add anything to the statements. The decision to ban it was a good one.

Just because the vote is over, does not mean people have to be happy about it and peoples feelings towards the referendum still matter, as the public's view could well significantly influence negotiations. The referendum is over but nothing has actually been decided yet.


Great... Farage still ruffling feathers. This does wonders for the country's image and should make negotiations smooth :rolleyes:

As with a lot in the EU... Does voting make a difference. If he was voting against say Spain and others who fish our waters he is outnumbered. The EU hate him and for good reason.

If he thinks its pointless, then he accepted a job that could well have made the difference in another persons hands, just for the sake of the pay-cheque. He is no different from what he paints other MEPs to be.
 
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He made no attempt to take it down from the inside. If he really wanted to take it down from the inside, he would have developed better relationships and participated more, rather than make enemies of everyone.

It does us little good.
 
He didn't take it down from the inside but achieved a referendum... I think he's done it.

If you think he hasn't... You've been landed
 
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