Brexit thread - what happens next
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It might have been all the nuts that came out after 9/11, or just the traditional alien conspiracy ones - but I've a strong aversion to getting any information from videos, especially youtube.
Unless it's got one animal chasing another and a David Attenborough voice over
With all these pro EU demonstrations going on, 2 in London today it's only a matter of time before the anti EU organise themselves properly and the confrontations aren't going to be pretty.
Once the first one happens then that will trigger confrontation at every demonstration and the Police will be caught in the middle.
Once the first one happens then that will trigger confrontation at every demonstration and the Police will be caught in the middle.
It might have been all the nuts that came out after 9/11, or just the traditional alien conspiracy ones - but I've a strong aversion to getting any information from videos, especially youtube.
Unless it's got one animal chasing another and a David Attenborough voice over
You should. Everybody should question any news article they read or video they watch - there is always an agenda behind it.
Those 60+ yearolds who overwhelmingly supported Leave will take it to the streets?
Well compared to the usual doped up dead beats on the other side I know who I'd put my money on.
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I think the government could legitimately hold a second referendum now. The analogy is more like an Olympic medalist being striped of the medals when caught cheating rather than the football match replays.
Then there literally would be blood on the streets as half the country would be almighty mad.
Not going to happen they can't afford the repair bills.
Yes, they have attracted some of the nasty people from other parties and from no parties. But many of the people who have come out as racist in the ukip party were like that when they were in their original parties. But there is no agenda needed behind demonising those parties or bringing it to the front when those MP's were in their original party.
Also many people want electoral reform, it was talked about a lot at the time in the media and the different systems. But we never wanted AV, we wanted PR. Clegg should have kept his spine and demanded the vote was on PR and not AV as he originally said in his manifesto.
I dunno - if its like here a lot of people I know voted leave - and now expect someone else to do something about it. A second referendum/invalidation of the result might get them fired up maybe but most don't seem to actually want to put their money where their mouth is when it comes to it.
I think that in the medium term the EU might well separate the ideologically based requirement that membership of the single market requires acceptance of the free movement of labour principle. There is no reason that a single market *must* have free movement of labour; it's more a matter of choice than necessity. A recent opinion poll showed that 61% of the French want to leave the EU: The frictions caused by the lack of democracy at the heart of the EU, and the free movement of labour principle partially explain French discontent with the EU. The French position, in itself, puts huge pressure on the EU to meaningfully reform.
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Just shows how suited to undemocratic Europe these whiny kids are.
If Remain won, you wouldn't be seeing a rejection of the decision like this.
If Remain won, you wouldn't be seeing a rejection of the decision like this.
Could you try to come up with an answer?
Of course, especially the print media. But video is primarily entertainment and the people making it are very good at getting an emotional response.
Everything we see in politics today is emotion - videos, tv, soundbites, big pictures with short slogans. A dry article of several thousand words (without pictures!) really doesn't get anyone's interest, which is sort of my point.
it is not that people did not want electoral reform, we just did not want some ridiculously more complicated halfway house. And AV is still far from PR as FPTP as your most preferable choice is not taken into account if they get a low number of votes in your area. But in the country as a whole their could have been a large number of votes meaning that your preferable choice is just as unlikely to get an MP as with FPTP.
essentially AV is just FPTP but with a second and maybe third round of voting if no clear winner is seen.
Nigel Farage himself said if there was only a few % in it he would feel it was "unfinished business". I wouldn't totally discount the possibility of marches had remain won by such a small margin.
On a 52-48 split of course you would.
Don't forget when Farage thought Leave had lost and announced defeat around 11pm on vote night, he actually said if it's something like a 52-48 split that's not enough of a mandate and a second referendum would be required.
Funny I haven't heard him saying the same thing now he won
Is that even a question? Of course, yes. That's absolutely the case.
You see a party in the media that complains of immigration and has racists in its midst, of course it lends credence and legitimacy to their xenophobia.
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Well you might get a few grunts of annoyance whilst glued to the tv watching Jeremy Kyle.
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