Why do Leavers feel confrontation and/or violence is necessary just because some people are expressing their democratic right to protest?
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Why do Leavers feel confrontation and/or violence is necessary just because some people are expressing their democratic right to protest?
Top Job, european MEP's starting to show their true faces. Glad we are coming out considering that in 2014, out of 576 motions passed in the European parliament we were outvoted on ~485 of them with little support from other countries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-are-outvoted-time-and-again-in-Brussels.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...tvoted-EU-Council-VoteWatch-Europe-study-MEPs
How EU MEP's are starting to treat ours. along with the other anti british sentiment going around in brussels.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpaign-intimidation-Brussels-post-Brexit.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-are-outvoted-time-and-again-in-Brussels.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...tvoted-EU-Council-VoteWatch-Europe-study-MEPs
How EU MEP's are starting to treat ours. along with the other anti british sentiment going around in brussels.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpaign-intimidation-Brussels-post-Brexit.html
Err, but on the flip side you guys think Farage is a 'top bloke' when he is rude and offensive to them?
Hypocrite much?
For as long as i remember their foreign policy was to always control immigration, not cut it off completely. They also have quite a few members in their party that are from a mixture of different faiths and colour.
Ukip MEP's was the smallest group of MEP's behind lib/lab/con during the periods stated in those reports. it was only during the 2014 european elections that UKIP gained the majority.
It might have been all the nuts that came out after 9/11, or just the traditional alien conspiracy ones - but I've a strong aversion to getting any information from videos, especially youtube.
Unless it's got one animal chasing another and a David Attenborough voice over
Have you seen it? the one called "What's that coming over the hill?"
It's just a satire of the whole post result argument. I agree with everything he says.
Can't post it in here as it's pretty foul mouthed
What do you expect after Farage's performance last week? You reap what you sow.
quite... oh but Farage wasn't very nice in his speech (as though that is comparable)
Anti British sentiment has been a thing for years within the European parliament. They are just being far more vocal about it now due to Brexit.
Weren't you the one saying that we're so great and powerful a nation that the EU would be falling over themselves to give us a great deal? Why would they do that if there's such a strong anti-British sentiment?
The amount of money we pay into the EU kitty along with the amount of trade we have with france and germany.
A remain MP said on tv that we sent 20billion last year to the EU before rebate. So much for them saying that it is only 9Billion that we send. Much of the rebate money is then dictated as to where it can be spent, ie development grants, research etc.
so in the end we are paying money for all of the things in our country out of our own money that is plastered with an EU stamp.
really wish i could grab the clip of the guy talking, was so annoying that the presenter did not pull them up over the figure at the time considering they said we don't send 20 billion a year to the EU during their campaigning. fobbing off the 350million that we send a week which we do, then so much is sent back and dictated as to where it is spent in our own country. which is essentially the rebate.
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They class it as a direct repayment, but you might as well consider the EU funded initiative money as part of our rebate considering we are essentially paying directly for it anyway.
Since we are paying for it anyway, we can still keep funding the areas that the EU were apparently funding.
Although i agree with our MEP's that there should be a cap to quite a few of the areas such as the farm subsidy money. It was british MEP's that wanted a 30k cap in payments for subsidies to farmers since larger corporate farms are taking the largest chunks at over 100k a year for some. Yet that legislation was outvoted on in EU parliament when the whole point of the subsidy was to help smaller and poorer farmers yet it is helping to bank roll large corporate farms more than anything.
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How can anyone be surprised that big Nige ripping the **** out of these people has resulted in them not wanting to play nice? He throws insults around, acts like a condescending **** and then requests that they deal with the UK in a 'grown up manner'....seriously? And people bought into his delusions of grandeur the mind really does boggle.
Where do you come up with your delusions? Any sources or are they made up on spot?
I think you're getting mixed up.
The amount varies but most recently was £18b. The rebate is applied before that money is paid, which in 2015 was £5b so the amount paid was £13b. You then factor in the EU funding provided to us, which was calculated at £4.5b in 2015. This means the net contribution was around £8.5b and nothing like £20b.
These figures don't include payments made to private sector areas, like scientific and medical research, so in reality this figure is still lower but it's not easy to quantify those amounts so I didn't put them in the calculations.
None of this, of course, counts the private sector businesses that trade within the EU, paying taxes on their earnings directly out of the EU, nor the services that the EU have covered off for us - the civil service is going to have to grow at hideous expense to cover off the shortfall if we leave.
The actual cost is tiny compared to our GDP and the overall impact. All of this information is freely available. Here's a link:
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
Interesting to see some sourced facts about the funding, I think it has been said by Mr Jack a number of times as well as you that replicating the functions of the EU in our civil service will not come without a price. As a block centralising those function had significant cost savings all round.
Good time to be in law or the civil service.
Delusions of grandeur are better than sleepwalking into a superstate with no say over what happens in your own country.
If they are indeed separate it is quite significant, as we are essentially paying in less (than has been claimed) and getting out more.
Thank you for some actual facts.So in effect our contribution after rebate and the money back incentives which the EU pour's into regions that we would need to cover anyways (though I have less faith in our government doing so) and we are looking at a weekly bill of £140 million.
So £140 million now to play with. Not going to go far when we will need to build up functions to properly apply said money and likely most will vanish with extra holes that will need to be plugged.
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