Brexit thread - what happens next

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Caged said:
We've got our sovereignty back though, and the issues that caused the decline of the deindustrialised North have all gone away. Also we've got an answer to the horrendous productivity levels amongst our workforce. So it was all worth it.
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What's more George Osborne is furiously redrafting his budget to include regional funds and a pilot of universal income at the level of a living wage in the North and Wales. The wheels of liberated power are turning! You've seen nothing yet!

Hikari Kisugi said:
So the NHS won't get £350M a week ? hehe


I see the pound now has reached an all time low against various Asian currencies and the dollar. Oh well.
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Scotty, more power to the Patriot engines in 5...4...3...2...1...BEAST MODE!
 
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Stretch said:
That means agreeing to all the terms the leave campaign fought so vocally against.

All the indications are, you cannot have full access to the single market without

Accepting free movement of people.
Contributing into the EU budget.
Observing EU regulation
Have unilateral agrement over trade deals with the rest of the world.

That being the case, what is the point of leaving the EU.
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It is inevitable that there will be free movement in some form. I also agree that what is the point of leaving. It is the position we are converging on. The only benefit is lower contribution, less regulation and we can get our own free trade agreements. Some big upsides to trade against some big downsides. I'm certain we won't address the immigration issue some feel there is.
 
delta0 said:
I would check again. It is £2.2bn for the UK in the EEA vs £14.4bn in the EU (including rebate). http://euquestion.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/cameron-watch-how-much-does-norway-pay.html?m=1
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now quote it properly

Hence, the UK could expect to pay £2.2 billion (UK equivalent to Norway’s gross payments in 2014 based on relative size of the economies) + £4.539 billion (to replace lost EU funding) = £6.739 billion. This is less than half the £14.346 billion gross (after rebate) actually paid by the UK in 2014
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what was the actual net contribution the UK paid, it was actually about 8.3 billion (161 million /week)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35943216

so we are saving about 2 billion a year, which would likely get swalloed up in the short to mid term while markets and our econmy tries to work out where the hell it should be.
 
Bonjour said:
By their own admission, estimates.

I think our NET contribution to the EU is just shy of £4billion. Obviously there's the argument that we'd be better off choosing what to spend the money on that comes back, but the NET figure is still considerably lower that £14billion.
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exactly, but people see what they want to see. it's like the Let's give the 350 million we pay to the EU to the NHS. No wait, that was never a promise it was a suggestion even though it clearly state "LET US GIVE THE 350 MILLION WE PAY THE EU TO THE NHS". If that was a suggestive where is the question mark ?
 
wildman said:
now quote it properly



what was the actual net contribution the UK paid, it was actually about 8.3 billion (161 million /week)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35943216

so we are saving about 2 billion a year, which would likely get swalloed up in the short to mid term while markets and our econmy tries to work out where the hell it should be.
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Actually the full figure is nearer £19bn per year. However after rebate this falls to £14bn.
 
Are you lot not getting bored yet? Nothing is going to change until mid September at the earliest so are you going to the same circular arguments every day until then? :confused:
 
[TW]Fox;29752693 said:
Well of course they do, because companies that don't 'export to the EU' still sell in the EU - because we are in the EU!

How many of us would want to buy products that don't comply with EU regulations anyway? Almost all of the regulations make things better for either society as a whole or us as consumers.

If you want unregulated tat buy it from China? :D
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I run a small business. It has just cost me 8 grand to get through the EU red tape to put a trailer on a van.

Stupid thing is I still don't know if I fully comply with the regulations because to put a trailer on a van isn't actually fully described in the regulations and is open to interpretation. Neither dvsa or vosa make much sense either when you ring em.

I may need driver cpcs which no one can confirm if I do. Another 2 grand if someone decides that I do.

The regulations are geared to large carriers and is a case of the little guy getting swept to the side.

No, we don't need to all comply with EU regulation. 8 grand outlay means I've held off getting a new member of staff this year and I could do with one.
 
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kitch9 said:
I run a small business. It has just cost me 8 grand to get through the EU red tape to put a trailer on a van.
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You are going to have to explain what that £8k was for because currently your story means nothing to anyone. What did you have to spend £8k on?
 
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