Brexit thread - what happens next

[Stretch]

I know right, I'm still waiting for the war I voted for!

This is just wilful ignorance.

Cameron Said

"Can we be so sure peace and stability on our continent are assured beyond any shadow of doubt? Is that a risk worth taking?

"I would never be so rash to make that assumption."

He didn't say there would be a war, just that the EU makes conflict much less likely. Which is after all correct if you work on the basis that there has never been a war between EU member states since it's formation 50 odd years ago. States that have historically been in a perpetual state of war in the preceding centuries.

He also wasn't necessarily referring to the UK, but that if Brexit caused a further break up of the EU, then the world would be a far far more unstable place.

This is indisputably true.

It was actually the Leave side that sensationalised these statements to twist them into something it wan't.

 

[Mulder]

They're mostly at stage 5/6 now, so not long.

Disbelief
Denial
Bargaining
Guilt
Anger
Depression
Acceptance

I suspect every listed company will use Brexit as an excuse to some extent. It's just another reason for management to say poor performance has been driven by external factors, whether it's had any impact or not.

In other news, just to balance the doom and gloom around here:

Amazon to create 1,000 UK jobs
Plans to create 6,000 new jobs in Durham move forward
600 jobs created with opening of new office block in Newcastle city centre
CS Wind to create 160 new jobs at Campbeltown fabrication site


That last one was off the back of an order from Siemens.

Edit - and it seems Sajid Javid is off around the world looking to kick start discussions with India, the US, China, Japan and South Korea.

 

[joeyjojo]

So work has suddenly dried up in the last two weeks with immediate effect? Sounds more like an employer cynically exploiting the situation to make cuts to me. Good luck to him finding work though.

Other than what A.N.Other said, power stations are one of those areas where they have to plan in years and decades, so it wouldn't surprise me if they started making strategy changes immediately.

 

[wildman]

They genuinely think it's just like a game of football or something and it doesn't really matter. Which explains the way many voted I guess - 'oh it doesn't matter, lets just use it to protest'

So you keep saying...

and from the amount of , we won, you lost, deal with it posts in here Fox is right. This isn't a game where one side wins and another loses, but it's being treated as such.

The best thing the dons can do is simply lock this thread now and then come back to this subject once we have a new PM and Article 50 is triggered because it's just going round in a circle.

 

[Steedie]

The best thing the dons can do is simply lock this thread now and then come back to this subject once we have a new PM and Article 50 is triggered because it's just going round in a circle.

Couldn't agree more

The amount of generalisations and snide remarks being made in this thread from either side is just getting out of hand. And I'm guilty of it too

 

[bayo000]

So you keep saying...

Actually the only Leave voter in my group of friends voted Leave as a protest, he never thought Leave could win but wanted to send a "message" to government. Guess what, he regrets his vote.

 

[Warbie]

Well you said lying was one of the reasons Remain lost, which doesn't make sense when you acknowledge Leave lied as well, who won, so lying doesn't seem to have had an effect on the outcome....contrary to your viewpoint.

Whereas a lot of people think it was the Leaves lies that did win the result - well, that and all the gullible morons who believed the lies of course

It's not so much that the leave campaign lied, is that it had no strategy or end game plan at all. Nobody voting leave knew what they were voting for. I suspect this was deliberate - let people fill in the blanks as to what they want their, often contradictory, versions of leave to mean and watch the votes come flooding in. Had the campaign been clear I doubt they would have had anything like the same result.

 

[n111ck]

Other than what A.N.Other said, power stations are one of those areas where they have to plan in years and decades, so it wouldn't surprise me if they started making strategy changes immediately.

If they plan years in advance then they should have years of work in the pipeline - it doesnt make sense hence likely an excuse.

 

[flowrider99]

It is quite amusing this win/lost thing.

At the moment, all anyone has won is the money in their pocket being worth significantly less than it was a few weeks ago.

yay?

The money in our pocket is worth less than it was 30 years ago so I dont get your point. We now have Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley plus others saying the UK will have a bright future outside of the EU, these are the same people who before the referendum were telling us we would have financial meltdown.

 

[Jono8]

The money in our pocket is worth less than it was 30 years ago so I dont get your point

 

[Steedie]

Actually the only Leave voter in my group of friends voted Leave as a protest, he never thought Leave could win but wanted to send a "message" to government. Guess what, he regrets his vote.

Saying "actually" at the start of your post as if one person you know accounts for the 17 million is a bit bizarre

 

[drs101]

sorry wrong thread

 

[wildman]

clearly black lives are worth less in the US, as are poor white people, more or less guns wont stop the police shooting people for little or no reason.

wrong thread ? but I get your point

 

[drs101]

wrong thread ?

yeh

 

[Pudney]

Erm thanks for proving my point.

That's fine. It doesn't prove your point but I have no desire to continue this with you

 

[bayo000]

Saying "actually" at the start of your post as if one person you know accounts for the 17 million is a bit bizarre

Same as you trying to say that some of the Leave lot don't see it as a game and it doesn't mater. So as we were.

 

[n111ck]

That's fine. It doesn't prove your point but I have no desire to continue this with you

It does- you must just be a dishonest person. *shrug*

 

[Six6siX]

If they plan years in advance then they should have years of work in the pipeline - it doesnt make sense hence likely an excuse.

So to conclude, everything that anyone ever says that puts Brexit in a bad light is an excuse...a conspiracy...a story designed purely to discredit the will of the people and enforce the establishment's position?

 

[inogen]

More lies exposed...

 

[n111ck]

So to conclude, everything that anyone ever says that puts Brexit in a bad light is an excuse...a conspiracy...a story designed purely to discredit the will of the people and enforce the establishment's position?

Everything? We are discussing one specific example - theres that exagerating again! Lol